Number / distribution of outdoor lamps for square house approx. 9.40m x 9.40m

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Even in this regard, we have been caught up by reality. ;-) Smarter forum members than I might have already known. Yesterday, we received the electrical plan with all sorts of instructions. As little as possible, rather nothing at all, should be mounted on the exterior walls of the house. Flush-mounted installations are not possible, no switches/buttons, exterior lights (the topic of the thread) can only be installed, due to production reasons, in certain places that unfortunately do not correspond at all to my aesthetic sense. If there are exterior lights at all, then definitely no wall spotlights. No spotlights in the roof overhang or under the eaves, flush mounting of the intercom is not possible, and so on and so forth...

With all these restrictions, I am amazed that new houses are sold at such high prices. I can only advise once again, in case of choice, to opt for a solid, older existing house. When I think about what we were able to do or not do according to our wishes in and around our previous house from the 50s.

It's a good thing that after all my experiences with house building, I will be satisfied in the end simply to have a roof over my head, electricity for my computers, and hot water. ;-) The house will be social housing; bitter, for so much money. Well, presumably no one can take away the relatively many windows and patio doors from me anymore. :)

(I will not address the restrictions of the electrical plan inside the house in this thread, as it is thematically inappropriate.)

I will probably have to realize myself in the garden. :) But wait, surely there are also restrictions and uncertainties lurking there. ;-)

We were caught up by reality on this point as well. ;-) Smarter forum members than I might have known already. Yesterday we received the electrical plan with all sorts of instructions. As little as possible, preferably nothing, should be attached to the outside walls of the house. Flush-mounted installations are not possible, no switches/buttons, outdoor lamps (the thread topic) can only be mounted in certain places due to production reasons, which unfortunately do not correspond at all to my aesthetic sense. If outdoor lamps are used, then definitely no wall washers. No spotlights in the eaves or undersides of the roof, flush-mounted installation of the intercom is not possible, and so on and so forth...

With all these restrictions, I am surprised that new houses are sold at such high prices. I can only advise again to choose a solid, older existing house if given the choice. When I think about what we could do or leave as we wished in and around our previous house from the 1950s.

It’s a good thing that after all my experiences with house building, I will be satisfied in the end if I simply have a roof over my head, electricity for my computers, and hot water. ;-) The house will be social housing; bitter, for so much money. Well, nobody can probably take away the relatively many windows and patio doors anymore. :)

(I won’t go into the restrictions of the electrical plan inside the house in this thread, as it is thematically inappropriate.)

I will probably have to realize myself in the garden. :) But wait, surely there are restrictions and uncertainties lurking there as well. ;-)

I understand your frustration, but at the same time I think that nowadays house lighting is mostly too much anyway. I need a nice and practical lamp at the front door; otherwise, lights can also be nicely placed as bollards along paths, we don’t need or want more than that anyway.
In the neighborhood it blinks and shines everywhere on/under/over the houses, so at night I see all those brightly lit and blinking wonders... ours, on the other hand, is pitch dark in the evenings, somehow I like it better that way.
By the way: lighting also wastes energy pointlessly, just to steer the topic there as well, even if it may not be much.
A real lighting CONCEPT, for example at a fancy villa in the countryside with beautiful front gardens, is very welcome, but with my humble single-family home I don’t feel any less good if I only have a nice outdoor lamp to avoid stumbling in or out of the house.
A nice light switch (such things do exist) should be visible in my opinion, and there are wonderful surface-mounted outdoor lights; we could integrate many things, but that is not our intention at all.
I don’t believe that the forum members you mentioned are actually smarter and that you will really have to live in social housing.
Understandably, I read disappointment, but the feasible possibilities to light a house APPROPRIATELY and beautifully still exist.
Here in the forum, people are (probably also due to age) very technology-oriented; I never boarded that train anyway, because I like it simple. I don’t have to board every boat that goes down the Neckar and can still feel good.
Therefore – don’t be sad, at least not for that reason!

We were caught up by reality on this point as well. ;-) Smarter forum members than I might have known already. Yesterday we received the electrical plan with all sorts of instructions. As little as possible, preferably nothing at all, should be mounted on the exterior walls of the house. Flush-mounted installations are not possible, no switches/buttons, outdoor lamps (the thread topic) can only be installed in certain places due to production reasons, which unfortunately do not at all correspond to my aesthetic sense. If there are outdoor lamps at all, then definitely no wall floodlights. No floodlights in the eaves or under the roof overhang, flush mounting of the intercom is not possible, and so on and so forth...

We also have a timber frame construction and I don’t understand the restrictions regarding lighting. Heavy loads (e.g. shutters, awnings, etc.) might possibly be problematic, but outdoor lamps probably not. Anyway, I would plan minimalist anyway: one outdoor lamp with motion sensor at the front door, a second one at the carport, maybe another for the terrace lighting, that’s really all that’s needed. Outdoor sockets are practical. In our case, they are also flush-mounted, of course they must be properly sealed. I do think the house builder will manage that as well. We don’t have an intercom at all – if there’s a sound, I just go to the door, after all, the house isn’t that big.

As little as possible, rather nothing, should be attached to the exterior walls of the house. Flush-mounted installations are not possible, no switches/buttons, outdoor lamps (the thread topic) can only be placed in certain spots due to production reasons,

Is the facade made of “Babbedeggel” so that nothing can be attached to it or will it hold? Can you please explain why that should not be possible?

Is the facade made of "Babbedeggel", so that nothing can be attached to it or holds? Can you please explain why this should not be possible?

"Due to the multi-layered wall structure in timber panel construction, special attention must be paid to the long-lasting tightness of the installations in the exterior area." "... in order to affect the well-insulated and sealed exterior wall of your house as little as possible." "Due to structural necessities ..." The following does not concern us, but I was also not aware of it: No installations in building partition walls, no installations in soundproofing walls (e.g. between different usage units ...). All or some of this is certainly reasonable, but it is in stark contrast to what, from my point of view, is a "normal" house like our previous one. As mentioned, in our previous house we could do or leave everything as we wanted, and it is still standing great after about 70 years. Oh, if only it had not stood in the wrong place. ;-)

We don't have an intercom at all - if it rings, I just go to the door, the house isn't that big anyway.

This is a good example of our partial tunnel vision. Only now, as you mention it, do I realize that we don't need an intercom either. In the previous house, we didn't have an intercom and never missed it. Thanks for that, I'll discuss it with my husband later. For us, it would even be completely ridiculous: We'd be standing in front of the entrance door with clear glass and talking through the intercom with the person standing in front of the transparent entrance door. :-) That would be downright silly. Thanks again.