New rate twice as high - experiences

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BackSteinGotik

2022-10-22 09:30:08
  • #1


Yes, the cases are absolutely not comparable. The OP must achieve massive income increases just to get back into reasonable ranges so that the topic of housing (installment, energy, maintenance) even moves towards 40%, let alone 33%. With the mentioned 3400€, you would be at well over 8000€. For a house that still needs modernization. To me, the price of the house does not fit with the necessary installment and the value received in return.
 

st3lli83

2022-10-22 09:44:59
  • #2
3400€? Are you confusing something here? 2400€ is the installment
 

BackSteinGotik

2022-10-22 10:15:47
  • #3


You yourself wrote - "fixed monthly costs with single-family house approx. 3450€ (2400€ one installment for the single-family house) installment, additional costs, reserves, etc." Together that makes the housing cost block for me. But even the calculation with the pure installment does not look really healthy. In addition, the unequal income distribution would be way too risky for me at the moment – or rather the price is way too high.
 

st3lli83

2022-10-22 10:23:21
  • #4
So. Ok. Yes, no idea what you or others earn and want/can spend.. But.. If it were unhealthy, the bank would already veto it... No idea how you guys always come up with the percentage values.. 30%... With a net household income of 6000, I can therefore afford a maximum of 1800... Ah yeah... Completely outdated and out of touch with reality. I respect your opinion nonetheless
 

WilderSueden

2022-10-22 10:34:54
  • #5
What matters in the end is what remains, percentage figures aside. And what your own lifestyle costs. Some manage easily with €2000 after housing costs, others spend €4000 every month.
 

ypg

2022-10-22 10:43:15
  • #6
A few remarks:

No, but it’s annoying when the vacuum cleaner, washing machine, and car/bike all break down at the same time*

You should change that – have you ever heard of bees?

I must have missed the time jump where people think that after building a house they can continue to spend their money just like before. I have been on this forum for 10 years now and have never read anything like that: no builder or buyer expects to be able to fly to Bali afterwards. Everyone is probably willing to pay attention to money and expenses for a corresponding period of time, and if necessary tighten their belt.

I missed this time jump too. More or less every homeowner around here maintains their garden and stretch of street themselves because they want to, and because services cost money. Only 1-2 justified exceptions.

Yes, there was early retirement and you could stay home at 58. Now we have to work until 67, and who knows: maybe even until 70/72?!

You notice when you haven’t thought about what you bought beforehand and now after two shopping trips that feel like they cost twice as much as usual, you first look at the price and put the goods back on the shelf.
(Our Edeka was relatively empty yesterday afternoon (Friday)…)
… or you actually look at the flyers for the next week on Saturday.
But with that, you can push down your costs. As you say: then you no longer eat pizza out or have it delivered, but take frozen pizza instead.

*Personally, over the course of my working life (since ’92) I have found that over the years my savings always sufficed for a newly purchased car at a medium level. That no longer works now because salary and consumption costs (car) are no longer in proportion, and I didn’t imagine it that way.

You don’t have to talk yourself down about your situation! It fits because enough screws could be turned if things don’t go as planned.
It’s not only the rate that triggers me there, but also the salary. That is comparatively good.
 

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