KFW40 or better in solid construction, possible without additional insulation?

  • Erstellt am 2019-11-18 08:44:02

Scout

2019-11-18 14:16:05
  • #1
Let's say: you either need thicker insulation – which will also eventually reach its limits, especially with monolithic-massive construction – OR more efficient technology. However, you have to swallow a toad, ideally the one that is cheaper. And if you don’t want a thicker (or a completely different one that costs less for a given insulation performance at the desired additional delta) wall structure, you will only be able to adjust the technology.

It’s about the primary energy demand related to the reference building. 1 kWh of heat from oil and gas "costs" about 1.1 or 1.2 kWh primary energy, or solar energy close to zero primary energy. There is a lot of politics behind this factor as well. That means theoretically you could heat a relatively thin envelope with a seasonal storage solar thermal system and it would be okay.

But at some point, this additional effort just won’t be acceptable anymore. Except with true believers.
 

haydee

2019-11-18 14:16:20
  • #2

it really wasn’t. We had 2 timber frame builders with KFW40 in comparison, one was more expensive, one was a bit cheaper. That surprised us too. Whether something has changed since 16/17 I don’t know.
It’s important that if you want KFW 40 or Passive House, you find a company where that is the standard.
For your information, it looked different with KFW 55.
 

Scout

2019-11-18 14:17:34
  • #3
I think you will most likely be happy with a timber frame or log house. Insulate it as much as possible and consider the certification. It’s not automatically worth it.
 

Lumpi_LE

2019-11-18 14:50:35
  • #4
To contribute something more to the initial question: We partly have walls made of 42.5 cm bricks + plaster and 30 cm bricks + mineral wool + wood facade (ventilated). The area with the wood facade was about 25% more expensive but also has a 25% better insulation value (if the same insulation value had been used, it would have been only slightly cheaper).
 

Specki

2019-11-18 14:55:50
  • #5
That's exciting!

Why did you build such a mix?
 

Lumpi_LE

2019-11-18 15:05:48
  • #6
On the one hand: brick+insulation+wood was cheaper than brick+wood with the same U-value. On the other hand, there were constructive reasons to avoid thermal bridges in the transition to the parapet/flat roof.
 

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