Is the planned construction cost including the land realistic?

  • Erstellt am 2025-08-05 19:31:40

MachsSelbst

2025-08-06 19:28:34
  • #1
Yes, but he is not suitable for DIY at all. Anyone who believes they can get a shell construction ready to move in within 50 days of annual leave on their own can no longer be wished a speedy recovery, but only hoped for a mild course without permanent damage. 50 days, that would be my estimate for doing painting, laying floors, installing doors, assembling kitchen and furniture, and moving in alone.

What he is planning will easily take 2 years if done alone alongside work.
 

11ant

2025-08-06 19:46:08
  • #2
No, I have no doubts about that – and furthermore have mentioned several times that "shell plus" is definitely cheaper than "ready to move in minus" (because at least the profit margin of the "removed" trades remains). The "alone" is still not enough. Weekend DIYers regularly massively underestimate the phenomenon of the declining (oh, what am I saying: steeply falling) productivity curve late in the day. And that the "following" tradesman no longer has time and must be replaced by a more expensive one if the DIYer finishes his interface delayed. I can easily fill 50 days alone with breathing, snacking, and wringing out a headband; no work is done yet – so the work still comes on top. After two weeks of rehab for muscle soreness, of course (and I haven’t even injured myself yet). You can take a look here once at what real speed is with . That might go a quarter faster in new builds than in existing buildings, where you already have to work around plan-deviating realities.
 

nordanney

2025-08-06 19:48:48
  • #3

I know exactly how it is. With the disadvantage that I first had to get the shell construction state on the old building.
It won't work in 50 days.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-08-06 21:58:38
  • #4


Unfortunately, that's how it is. After 2 weeks of full throttle on vacation, I just paused for 3 days because my back gave up. Today it was better again, but much slower than before...
 

Bierwächter

2025-08-06 23:47:25
  • #5
We have the following personal contributions:

- Laying and gluing parquet without interruption between rooms
- Installing doors ourselves, including one sliding door
- Complete plastering and sanding
- Interior painting work, and a little bit on the exterior plaster
- Network cables including empty conduits
- A few electrical cables that the general contractor could not offer us
- Installing bathroom fixtures
- Installing doorbell
- Very large photovoltaic system

Mainly, only my wife and I will do this. We both have 40-hour jobs and have saved our vacation. Although we are building only 103 sqm, I still fear that we might outsource a little bit because it might be too much.
Paving, garage, carport, garden, smart home, etc. are also all personal contributions, but we are postponing those for now.

For a bigger house and even more personal contributions, you really need a lot of help and endurance, I think. I am already annoyed by the construction preparation because I have to arrange things daily by phone and email. Also, a lot gets botched by all kinds of parties. If you can afford less personal contribution, I wouldn’t overdo it.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-08-07 00:13:06
  • #6
[Pflastern, garage, carport, garden, smarthome, etc. are also all done by ourselves, but we’ll put that aside for now.]

That’s when it really gets interesting. Interior finishing of the house, that’s still doable. In the garden, everything is many times harder, both regarding the excavation, the necessary frost protection subbase, and the material itself.

After a long back and forth, I have now decided to hire a landscape gardener for certain tasks. Moving 20, 30 cubic meters of soil, hauling away 15 cubic meters of clay, setting 120kg heavy block steps. That’s not possible without heavy machinery and especially not without being able to operate that machinery precisely.

I wanted to do everything myself, but in the garden with dozens of cubic meters of gravel, concrete, stones, soil, gravel. You reach your physical and above all your time limits. But financially, it really hits hard. For such a "digger day", I work for a whole week.
 

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