Is building without a building permit possible?

  • Erstellt am 2021-07-29 13:47:04

lastdrop

2021-07-29 14:27:16
  • #1
Are you yourself authorized to use construction templates? You don't need an architect or the like?

Tesla has also installed hundreds of millions without a building permit ...
 

Pinkiponk

2021-07-29 14:33:47
  • #2
I am not authorized to submit building plans, we have an architect who works with the house construction company. He has also received the information that we can build, but only by phone.
 

Stefan001

2021-07-29 15:05:27
  • #3
Have you submitted a building application or a building notification? In the case of the building notification, it is considered approved if no (negative) feedback is received within X weeks.
 

Pinkiponk

2021-07-29 15:06:30
  • #4
We have submitted a building application. The full designation is "Building application according to § 68 Saxon Building Code (SächsBO). The box for 'Simplified building approval procedure according to § 63 SächsBO' is checked. I have tried to read into the Saxon Building Code, but as a non-lawyer I don’t understand much. Well, in the worst case I will have to have it all "translated" by a lawyer. My only problem is, if the house construction is stopped halfway, my husband and I will be responsible and not the lawyer, the employee of the building authority, or the construction company. I still hope to receive this mysterious ;-) document "... certificate ..." soon. It would be unpleasant if it drags on for a year or so.
 

Escroda

2021-07-29 15:47:02
  • #5

The document is not ominous but the certificate for the so-called approval fiction according to §69 para. 5 SächsBO.
How long ago were the amended construction documents submitted?
Have you received a written confirmation of the date of receipt?
Were you informed of the "time of the decision" according to §69 para. 4 in any letter from the building permit authority?
 

Pinkiponk

2021-07-29 16:30:30
  • #6

Thank you for the information. "Ominous" was not meant in a judgmental way, but rather to express my lack of knowledge in this area. Now that I know the exact term, I can ask specifically about it again at a later time (I do not want to annoy the authority staff unnecessarily).


The revised construction documents (the architect called them "tektures") were submitted on 18.04.21.


We did not receive any written confirmation for the revised construction documents.


- In the first letter from the building authority titled "Request for documents" dated 22.12.2020, it was pointed out that "...the processing period of the building supervisory authority begins only with the confirmed receipt date of the complete documents according to § 69 paragraph 2 sentence 1 SächsBO (§ 69 paragraph 4 SächsBO)." The missing documents were subsequently submitted on 29.01.2021.
- In the second letter from the building authority titled "Confirmation of completeness of the construction documents" dated 03.02.2021, completeness was confirmed as of 01.02.2021. This letter refers to § 69 paragraph 4 SächsBO "in the presence of an important reason."
- In the third letter from the building authority dated 24.03.2021 labeled "Hearing according to § 28 Administrative Procedures Act (VwVfG)," we were informed that "the consent of the city ..." was not granted.
- In response, on 31.03.2021 we submitted an "application to suspend the procedure for 3 months" in order to revise the construction documents and adjust them to the requirements of the development plan.
- In the fourth and final letter from the building authority dated 08.04.2021 titled "Confirmation of suspension of the procedure," it was stated that "The deadline running as of 01.05.2021 according to § 69 paragraph 4 SächsBO" was suspended.
- On 16.04.2021 we submitted the revised documents and received no further written communication. Only last week, following my phone call, was I informed by phone that yes, we can build, and was pointed out that no further written approval would be issued, but I could apply for a "certificate for the so-called approval fiction according to §69 paragraph 5 SächsBO." I have done so and hope that such a certificate is not too complicated to issue.

The authority staff really work very well, competently, and quickly despite difficult conditions (Corona, illness, vacation), and I do not want to bother them unnecessarily, but without something in writing in hand, my husband and I do not dare to build.
 

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