danixf
2020-06-10 11:50:09
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No detailed argument is needed. It’s written in his Bible. The conduit takes just as long as the cable? You can simply roll out the conduit on a long straight stretch and then push the cable directly through it. Afterwards, lay it properly on the floor and cut the cable and conduit accordingly. It still takes a bit longer, yes. But not twice as long. Still not your problem. That’s just how it’s written. The part about curves is partially true. But no big deal. We pulled cables through three 90-degree bends ourselves. Threaded a piece of Styrofoam on a string and sucked it through with a vacuum cleaner at the other end. Then pulled the drawing spiral in and pushed/pulled on both ends.Can you give me a somewhat layman-friendly argument as to why this is possible / sensible? Maybe I can get him to lay the CAT cables in the wall with a conduit after all...
The "extra circuit" justification is questionable, but that’s debatable. He can be right sometimes. The joke is that this extra circuit is billed at 150€. At least for us, that means including installation, devices like RCD/circuit breakers, etc. Here it means: I pull a separate cable specifically to the one room. The breakthrough in the ceiling must be made anyway for other cables. Also, the wall needs chasing anyway in that room. Even without an extra circuit. Let that sink in. To be precise, 150€ is charged just to wire an extra cable in the panel, pull it through the existing ceiling breakthrough up to the door. A skilled electrician does that in 5 minutes. Max 10. The extra RCD. Google "RCD+MCB". The device costs 30€. Sometimes more depending on the supplier. If he wants to make a 50€ profit, then maybe around 100€. The part is just as big as a circuit breaker but takes up much less space. The trick? Both are integrated there and you don’t have to sacrifice an entire DIN rail for an RCD plus circuit breaker. So the bigger distribution board is completely unnecessary. For the whole work, a price of 150€ would be appropriate; if the distribution board is actually already undersized and an RCD+MCB has to be installed, then 200€ is still acceptable. Talk to the general contractor about what he charges. The word Chamber of Crafts often helps. When I read stuff like this, it annoys me that I’m not self-employed. You can turn rubbish into gold like this.The electrician says:[*]We need a separate circuit for the office 150€ [*]an extra RCD 115€ [*]and because we’re getting an additional circuit and RCD for that, also a bigger distribution board - 490€