House and garage - How best to place them on the properties?

  • Erstellt am 2018-02-09 09:32:00

kaho674

2018-02-10 10:45:06
  • #1
One thing must be said. Even if you have already doubled your plot to 572m² with 2 properties, it is still a small plot of land to build a house on. And yes, with 300m² you only have a narrow strip around the house which, in my opinion, does not deserve to be called a garden.

Please don't misunderstand. Whoever wants to build their house in Munich must already be a millionaire with 572m². This makes the land more valuable but ultimately not bigger.

9.45m x 10.45m is a moderate house to match, which is completely fine. But sitting at the property boundary or even lying in a bikini will surely not be enjoyable for the lady of the house.

I would strongly advise you to measure all your current furniture (beds, sofa, tables, etc.). Then take graph paper and draw this furniture into your floor plan.
In my opinion, you definitely need more feeling for the dimensions so you won't be disappointed later.
 

pp1203

2018-02-10 10:46:11
  • #2


We could also build a south terrace, it's not like that. We initially planned a terrace on the west side because we are mostly at home from the afternoon and often sit on the terrace until late in the evening. On the south terrace, the house would cast a shadow, and we couldn't sit in the sun. My wife's sister has it like that, and we don't like it.

Regarding furniture, you can see the different opinions. We find the layout already very generous for us. On the ground floor, there would be a couch, lowboard, TV on the wall, 1-2 sideboards, dining area, and kitchen. I don't see where that wouldn't be possible with the square meters and the layout.

The same applies upstairs. In our current rental apartment, we have a bedroom of about 16.5 sqm. There is a medium-sized small wardrobe, a sideboard, a bed with nightstands, even the child's crib, TV on the wall, and we don't find it too small.

Then the children's rooms with 20 sqm² would be a dream. I grew up with my brother together in a room of about 15 sqm².

More and bigger is of course always possible. We could also have a house of 200-250 sqm², but somewhere our budget is limited. We are already very proud that we can afford a detached single-family house of this size with such a large plot instead of living in a rental apartment all our lives. Nowadays, houses are very often squeezed onto mini plots where you have no garden... THAT would not be for us. We would also feel comfortable in a semi-detached house with a sufficiently large garden, but since we can afford to build, we are building detached.

That not everyone likes every floor plan is clear. We find the floor plan very nice. Maybe we will still adjust something here or there, but by and large we find it nice.
 

pp1203

2018-02-10 11:01:27
  • #3


I think you are probably right. We are already glad that we can afford something of this size at our location. Other people can’t afford a house at all or only a tiny plot.

The lady of the house would rather sit on the (relatively) spacious free south side in a bikini and sunbathe. That is why we want to leave this area open and not build the house on that side.

The question is just how we position the house, entrance on the east side, then we could keep the driveway from the street and have the terrace on the south side. However, in the evening we would have shade on the terrace there. Or the current option with entrance on the north side, for which we would have to widen the footpath by about 1 meter, but then we would have the terrace as currently planned on the short side and then it wouldn’t be far from the terrace to the fence. The floor plan could be adjusted anyway depending on how we position it. But placing the house exactly on the other side doesn’t make any sense at all because we would block the nice side.
 

ypg

2018-02-10 14:27:18
  • #4


Please don't take it personally that I am not engaging in a floor plan discussion here because I don't see it as logical but only cost-effective. Basically, a standard that comes from a BU should always be questioned somewhat or for the builder to recognize their own possibilities, that rooms can be rearranged, mirrored, and swapped.

Now, before further discussion, we should agree on what counts as the west terrace and what as the south terrace here. You yourself apparently also switch sides, just as we all probably mean something different here. You drew a SW terrace for me, while I simply called this side the south side because it is the driveway side. You keep talking about the west terrace, but what I see is a south terrace... SW... laugh, whatever.

I can't really follow the discussion at the moment when the few meters between garage and entrance get more priority than the orientation of the house.
 

pp1203

2018-02-10 14:44:34
  • #5
I certainly do not take anything personally or feel attacked. I myself also find it difficult to talk about cardinal directions, especially when the property is oriented roughly half-and-half between directions or when the house is positioned afterward.

You are right, in my drawing on page 3 of the topic, I refer to the west terrace. I say west because there would still be sun there until late in the evening. If we are exact, it is located in the southwest direction. The terrace could also be placed in the southeast direction... both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Southwest
Advantages:
Sun on the terrace from noon until the sun sets.
Disadvantages:
Not much space from the end of the terrace to the end of the property.

Southeast
Advantages:
You would have a large garden area in front of you.
Disadvantages:
No sun or not much sun in the evening because the house would cast a shadow on the terrace from a certain time.

Of course, the orientation of the house has the highest priority, but we would also like to place the garage effectively. That is why I opened this topic here. If I didn't care or didn't want to hear other people's tips, I wouldn't have needed to post here at all. I like to listen to tips and criticism from others in order to be able to make our decision based on them.

Depending on how we place the house, we will accordingly have to adjust/optimize the layout in one way or another.
 

11ant

2018-02-10 14:52:39
  • #6
You want to protect your own children from the dangers of road traffic. Then it should be clear to you that your neighbors will probably think similarly and you will not make yourself popular by turning half the length of the "play street" roadway into your driveway.

At the "street" corner, the public bin storage place interferes with the creation of a driveway.

My conclusion from this is: driveway close to the road, with the garage I would start about 7m behind the property boundary, built up to the street side, behind the garage a garden gate to the bin storage place, so the bins stand on your own property and can be quickly rolled out for collection. The garage there offers privacy without shading the garden.

Also keep in mind that a petty detail can be enough to impair an overall generous impression. In this sense, buying a second plot for enough garden space does not fit with slapping the house at the minimum distance to the roadway.

The floor plan is not really the core of the question here, but since it has already been mentioned: I find the dimensions of the house acceptable and the floor plan not bad enough to have to criticize it strongly. Possible deviations from that, how I would do it, seem to me to lie in the realm of individual taste. I "suspect" the upper floor plan originally stems from a gable roof design. That does not make it bad for a city villa, but then allows the "eaves-side" walls to be furnished with facade windows.
 

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