Flush mounting possible this way - experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2013-05-28 22:47:57

IKEA-Experte

2013-06-02 23:17:35
  • #1
If you ever want to move the kitchen or replace the fronts and can manage the widths of the new cabinets, then better wait. METOD is not that revolutionary to expect major problems. Additionally, there will be over a year of experience from other countries by then.
 

Maverick1854

2013-06-05 06:18:45
  • #2


Well... Is that really that helpful??? There have been other cases... Haven't there???
 

zetterberg

2013-06-05 08:48:30
  • #3
Basically it works, but keep in mind that you need a distance from the sink cutout to the next cutout/edge of the countertop.

Countertops never rest directly on built-under appliances, there is always some clearance. No customer service technician from an appliance manufacturer will completely or partially dismantle the kitchen in the event of a repair; the appliances must be easy to pull out even with the countertop installed.
Otherwise, the technician would simply be liable for the disassembly and reassembly.

Sometimes this is not possible at all, for example if the tile backsplash was subsequently placed on the countertop or stone panels were installed.
 

Nayla_1068

2013-06-05 22:57:09
  • #4


Wrong! Integrated dishwashers are screwed to the worktop and, if possible, to the neighboring cabinets.
Refrigerators and ovens are also screwed to or inside the cabinet. The service technician loosens the screws with a cordless screwdriver and that's it.

Best regards
Nayla
 

zetterberg

2013-06-06 08:47:24
  • #5


Unfortunately, your statement is not correct. Integrated under-counter appliances are indeed fixed to the countertops or the neighboring cabinets, that is true. However, this only serves to keep the machine in position, especially in dishwashers due to the constant opening of the door with the corresponding leverage effect. The side walls of these devices are not designed to bear any support load, nor should they be.

The other much more important reason is, as mentioned above, the service technician will not dismantle a kitchen fully or partially to access the appliance. If they did, they might first have to cut through the silicone joint to the wall (with a cutter), lift the countertop, reinstall everything, and apply a new silicone joint/seal. And then they must still ensure watertightness and be liable for it.

Gut is an extreme example, but it clearly shows why this is not the case.

Ikea also has a built-in washing machine; have you ever looked at the assembly instructions to see how the foot at the back of the device is adjusted? Is it screwed up to the countertop and fixed the machine?
In advance, you can save yourself the trouble of checking, I know the sister model from AEG and another manufacturer; on both, there must be a 4-5 mm gap between the foot and the countertop, precisely for the reasons described above.

Please take a close look at the instructions before making such statements to customers; others have to deal with the consequences, and the service technicians leave again if it is not installed and operated according to the instructions.
 

Nayla_1068

2013-06-06 10:43:42
  • #6
Hi,

I have not mentioned a support load at any point; it was merely about the dishwasher and other devices being fixed to or in the cabinet. So if a potential customer reads your first post and takes it at face value, they will simply shove the dishwasher underneath, and the whole device will come towards them every time they open it. Of course, this is an extreme example.

In general, one certainly has to differentiate what a service technician does beyond their work on the device. You are absolutely right about that. In this case, I am only speaking for AEG and Bauknecht for Ikea. However, there is a work catalog for Ikea in connection with the two companies. For example, if a seam or the like has to be cut, the technician signs a liability waiver. If the customer does not sign this or if the work to be done is not manageable for the technician alone, they will leave again. The customer then has to ensure that the installer can do their work without any problems. A new appointment will be arranged.

Best regards

Nayla
 

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