Floor plan tips for a single-family house with a desired granny flat

  • Erstellt am 2021-10-01 00:17:20

Nicolefl

2021-10-01 00:17:20
  • #1
Hello everyone,

we already have a finished floor plan for our single-family house with a granny flat. The building application has already been submitted. Unfortunately, uncertainties regarding the floor plan have crept in during the eight months’ waiting time for the building permit. We will no longer be able to change the exterior dimensions, but the interior floor plan is not coherent.
Briefly about the granny flat: it is meant for my parents. They will live partly here and partly abroad. The idea that they would access the granny flat through our apartment is not desired. There should still be a separate entrance. Even if it is inconvenient that we have two staircases. Later, the apartment could serve our son when he is older. Or be converted into a hobby room, or whatever...

On the ground floor, I would much prefer to have the kitchen where the living room currently is, including a kitchen island. The problem is that the living room would then have to move to where the kitchen is now, and with 3.13 m that is way too narrow.

On the upper floor, a small storage room could be built after the staircase landing to accommodate the washing machine and dryer.

Bebauungsplan/Einschränkungen
Size of the property: 386 sqm
Slope: no
Grundflächenzahl" siehe Anlage
Geschossflächenzahl, siehe Anlage
Building window, building line and boundary: see attachment
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 3
Number of floors: 2
Roof shape: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: entrance is in the north
Maximum heights/limits
further specifications: see attachment

Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type
Modern style, gable roof, single-family house with granny flat
Basement, floors
Basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, age
In total 4 adults (2 mid-30s and two mid-60s) and 1 child (3 years) maybe soon two
Space needs on ground and upper floors
Ground floor: living/dining area, kitchen, guest WC, pantry would be nice
Upper floor: bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room would be great
Office: family use or home office?
No office needed
Guests per year
No need independently from the granny flat
Open or closed architecture
Open architecture
Conservative or modern construction: no statement
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Open kitchen with kitchen island. Floor-to-ceiling kitchen
Number of dining seats
4-6
Fireplace
No..if then bioethanol
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage 7*3 m
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be
Swapping the living room and kitchen would have the advantage that you can talk on the couch in the evening without it being too noisy upstairs (because of the air space)

House design
Who designed the plan: the plan comes from our architect, but the plan is not coherent.
What do you like particularly? Why? Well, not much
What do you dislike? Why? The living and dining areas and kitchen are overall too narrow.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 450,000
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 510,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump

If you have to forgo, which details/extensions
-you can do without: floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor
-you cannot do without: straight staircase and the air space I would also rather not give up

Why did the design turn out the way it is now?
this is the third design from our planner which we also liked. Now we are uncertain.

Number of rooms and air space and straight staircase were considered.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes?
The space in the living/dining area is too small or rather the room is too narrow.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Bebauungsplan/Einschränkungen


1. Would swapping the living room and kitchen be sensible? But the future living room would then have to be made wider because 3.13 m won’t get you far
2. Could a storage room still be planned on the upper floor? Possibly after the staircase landing.
3. What do you like or dislike?

I am very grateful for suggestions and tips.

Best regards
Nicole




 

11ant

2021-10-01 00:58:39
  • #2
Then it is and remains that way, unless you want to go through this process including the duration again. Significant changes will require a new application, consistent exterior dimensions won't help. There are two things I still haven't understood: namely the roof structure and the building being set forward about 1 meter past the building line towards the street. You have scored yourselves two massive own goals, namely the airspace and the square shape of the house footprint, in addition to the already high density of wishes/requirements for the house size. Am I correct in assuming that the design was developed from a catalog city villa? I find the house surprisingly/remarkably successful as a compromise considering its borderline small "size", I would actually only remove the airspace and would have forgone the exemption from the building line—was this even largely responsible for the long processing time? It seems to me that from your clever draftsman you have almost lost an architect, who apparently only failed to talk you out of the airspace.
 

Tom1978

2021-10-01 07:46:30
  • #3


I am not allowed to say anything about the floor plan since ours has been criticized many times already :cool: I also haven't found how big the house will be. I estimate about 200 sqm. I would question how you get to only 450,000 €. It looks like a lot of groundwork = high costs. With the small plot, the earth will probably be removed immediately = even more costs. Architects have the advantage that they often create nice floor plans, but they don't always manage cost calculations that well...

As a rule of thumb, you should always take:
- sqm * 2,500 € (also depends on the region; BBW or Bavaria can also be 3,000 €)
- For you, I would estimate at least 70,000 € additional construction costs
- 20,000 € for the garage.
We come to a rough calculation: 200 sqm * 2,500 € + 70,000 € + 20,000 € = 590,000 € (without furniture/lamps, floors, driveway, outdoor facilities, kitchen). Your price limit will hardly be sufficient for your wishes.
 

driver55

2021-10-01 08:10:32
  • #4
Here I come again with my "old tune." Too much hallway/traffic area, living space (under 4 m) too narrow, etc. pp.
 

evelinoz

2021-10-01 08:46:01
  • #5
no, you don't wear yourself out walking from the kitchen to the table.
 

ypg

2021-10-01 09:21:57
  • #6
Where, if not in the air space???? And what about the clinking dishes when the machine is emptied in the evening or guests are entertained? That's right. Good that you noticed that yourselves. I would refrain from a swap: 3.10 is enough for a kitchen line plus an island or a double line. As I see it, the gem of the property is where the kitchen is now: I would then enlarge the windows there (west and northwest) and create the dining and evening terrace. I can imagine closing a kitchen passage at the bottom of the plan at the stair approach. Then two lines. Floor windows in the north and west. Then you don’t always have to go through the quiet zone. Basically, I would question the windows on the upper floor as to why it was planned almost like a townhouse and no windows were planned in the east and west, which are important for the sleeping area. A tip for the entrance: door to the apartment aligned with the front door creates double the cloakroom space!!! Otherwise, and then it will work, the design. The budget is very questionable!
 

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