JayneCobb
2020-11-23 16:56:00
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Hello everyone,
as I introduced myself in the general forum, we had some talks with different GCs, both solid construction and timber construction.
We are now at the point where we have some floor plan proposals.
I would like to present you here (first?) the design from the company Holz 1, which we especially like because of the gallery and which contains a lot of what we communicated as wishes in advance.
I redrew this myself, so please forgive me if some things look amateurish.
I mostly did not draw in the windows. What we would like very much would be the (probably very expensive) idea to have the eastern glass area at the southeast corner run over two floors; I just couldn’t find this representation quickly in the program.
I drew in the larger bed on the ground floor for size proportions (because this could potentially serve as a bedroom for us later).
What already came up in the linked thread above was that several forum members would move living/dining down to the garden level and for that the sleeping level upstairs.
Our reasons to plan it this way (but we are not completely fixed yet):
- significantly shorter distances for carrying groceries, taking out the trash, ...
- nicer view from the living area into the greenery/into the mini-valley I described than in the basement
- more generous living feeling through an open ceiling/the gallery
- being able to come in and "let yourself fall"
- simple facilitation of a frailty scenario (potentially living on one level later, at least for a certain time)
We are happy about further remarks, ideas, etc., thanks a lot in advance!
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 791 sqm
Slope: yes
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Plot ratio: 0.6
Building window, building line and boundary: see attachment
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage planned)
Number of floors: 2-2.5 (garden floor, ground floor, and possibly half attic as gallery with airspace above the ground floor)
Roof type: gable roof (35-42° specified)
Orientation: still open
Maximum heights/limits: WH: 6.5 m; FH: 11.5 m
Other specifications: Distance from house to street approx. 4.50 m (terrain slopes down from street)
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type:
Unfortunately, we are limited to a gable roof due to the development plan; otherwise, I would have chosen a clear Bauhaus style.
Basement, floors:
Garden floor 1/4 basement, 3/4 sleeping area. Above, ground floor as living area, possibly half open attic (gallery with airspace + 1 room).
Number of persons, age:
3-4 persons: 44 and 46; son 1.5 years old and 12-year-old daughter of the husband (she either comes every two weeks on weekends or lives there full-time)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors:
Since the garage will probably have to be underbuilt anyway due to the slope, we thought about having the basement there (storage, possibly workshop) with access from the garden side as well as from the house. In the garden/basement floor itself, there would then be the technical and laundry room as well as three bedrooms and the main bathroom. On the ground floor (accessible level with the street and from the garage), the living area is planned with kitchen, open living and dining area, pantry/utility room, an office/guest room, and a guest bathroom. An architect from a developer also presented the possibility of a half attic as a gallery with airspace over the living area and a small room (guest room, office), which I really like.
Office: family use or home office?
Home office will definitely be done proportionally.
Guests per year:
Hard to say, but a small guest room is planned.
Open or closed architecture:
Rather open in the living area, especially the view into the undevelopable, sloping green (southeast) should be emphasized by high ceilings (no intermediate ceiling there) and large windows.
Open kitchen, cooking island:
Kitchen separable with sliding door, cooking island not necessary
Number of dining seats:
6
Fireplace:
Gladly (or wood stove), but not a must
Music/stereo wall:
Yes
Balcony, roof terrace:
Balcony on the ground floor facing southeast (preferably partly pulled inside the house, but probably not enough space?), south
Garage, carport:
Garage preferred
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Partly utility garden, partly for digging and then to look nice, partly play options for our son
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be:
We imagine a KfW55 house with a (prepared) photovoltaic system.
I want to design the ground floor so that later, if you are not as mobile anymore, you don’t have to move out immediately, but can live on one level. Therefore, an extra room on the ground floor is a must, which is currently used as an office/guest room and could later be converted into a bedroom. For the same reason, the guest bathroom should already have a shower, and somewhere on the ground floor, the washing machine connection, etc., should be considered.
I tend to generosity, a lot of living space and would wish for many rooms, but unfortunately, the budget clearly limits that. My boyfriend is more the minimalist type and is not unhappy if the house is not too big.
House design
Who made the plans:
Planner of a construction company
What do you like especially? Why?:
Gallery/air space (openness)
What don’t you like? Why?
Less space (e.g., currently small bathroom, of course still adjustable) --> budget-related
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
520,000-550,000 euros gross (very rough estimate, no fixed price offer yet)
Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment:
530,000 euros (but never say never)
Preferred heating technology:
Air-water heat pump
If you have to give up, on which details/extensions
- you can do without:
Garage may be shorter
- you cannot do without:
Something open (some trick that is special/beautiful)
View of biotope strip southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
Relevant/which wishes were implemented by the architect?
Yes.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Airy, sufficient number of rooms
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the layout of the house good to meet our wishes?
as I introduced myself in the general forum, we had some talks with different GCs, both solid construction and timber construction.
We are now at the point where we have some floor plan proposals.
I would like to present you here (first?) the design from the company Holz 1, which we especially like because of the gallery and which contains a lot of what we communicated as wishes in advance.
I redrew this myself, so please forgive me if some things look amateurish.
I mostly did not draw in the windows. What we would like very much would be the (probably very expensive) idea to have the eastern glass area at the southeast corner run over two floors; I just couldn’t find this representation quickly in the program.
I drew in the larger bed on the ground floor for size proportions (because this could potentially serve as a bedroom for us later).
What already came up in the linked thread above was that several forum members would move living/dining down to the garden level and for that the sleeping level upstairs.
Our reasons to plan it this way (but we are not completely fixed yet):
- significantly shorter distances for carrying groceries, taking out the trash, ...
- nicer view from the living area into the greenery/into the mini-valley I described than in the basement
- more generous living feeling through an open ceiling/the gallery
- being able to come in and "let yourself fall"
- simple facilitation of a frailty scenario (potentially living on one level later, at least for a certain time)
We are happy about further remarks, ideas, etc., thanks a lot in advance!
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 791 sqm
Slope: yes
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Plot ratio: 0.6
Building window, building line and boundary: see attachment
Number of parking spaces: 2 (double garage planned)
Number of floors: 2-2.5 (garden floor, ground floor, and possibly half attic as gallery with airspace above the ground floor)
Roof type: gable roof (35-42° specified)
Orientation: still open
Maximum heights/limits: WH: 6.5 m; FH: 11.5 m
Other specifications: Distance from house to street approx. 4.50 m (terrain slopes down from street)
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type:
Unfortunately, we are limited to a gable roof due to the development plan; otherwise, I would have chosen a clear Bauhaus style.
Basement, floors:
Garden floor 1/4 basement, 3/4 sleeping area. Above, ground floor as living area, possibly half open attic (gallery with airspace + 1 room).
Number of persons, age:
3-4 persons: 44 and 46; son 1.5 years old and 12-year-old daughter of the husband (she either comes every two weeks on weekends or lives there full-time)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors:
Since the garage will probably have to be underbuilt anyway due to the slope, we thought about having the basement there (storage, possibly workshop) with access from the garden side as well as from the house. In the garden/basement floor itself, there would then be the technical and laundry room as well as three bedrooms and the main bathroom. On the ground floor (accessible level with the street and from the garage), the living area is planned with kitchen, open living and dining area, pantry/utility room, an office/guest room, and a guest bathroom. An architect from a developer also presented the possibility of a half attic as a gallery with airspace over the living area and a small room (guest room, office), which I really like.
Office: family use or home office?
Home office will definitely be done proportionally.
Guests per year:
Hard to say, but a small guest room is planned.
Open or closed architecture:
Rather open in the living area, especially the view into the undevelopable, sloping green (southeast) should be emphasized by high ceilings (no intermediate ceiling there) and large windows.
Open kitchen, cooking island:
Kitchen separable with sliding door, cooking island not necessary
Number of dining seats:
6
Fireplace:
Gladly (or wood stove), but not a must
Music/stereo wall:
Yes
Balcony, roof terrace:
Balcony on the ground floor facing southeast (preferably partly pulled inside the house, but probably not enough space?), south
Garage, carport:
Garage preferred
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Partly utility garden, partly for digging and then to look nice, partly play options for our son
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be:
We imagine a KfW55 house with a (prepared) photovoltaic system.
I want to design the ground floor so that later, if you are not as mobile anymore, you don’t have to move out immediately, but can live on one level. Therefore, an extra room on the ground floor is a must, which is currently used as an office/guest room and could later be converted into a bedroom. For the same reason, the guest bathroom should already have a shower, and somewhere on the ground floor, the washing machine connection, etc., should be considered.
I tend to generosity, a lot of living space and would wish for many rooms, but unfortunately, the budget clearly limits that. My boyfriend is more the minimalist type and is not unhappy if the house is not too big.
House design
Who made the plans:
Planner of a construction company
What do you like especially? Why?:
Gallery/air space (openness)
What don’t you like? Why?
Less space (e.g., currently small bathroom, of course still adjustable) --> budget-related
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
520,000-550,000 euros gross (very rough estimate, no fixed price offer yet)
Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment:
530,000 euros (but never say never)
Preferred heating technology:
Air-water heat pump
If you have to give up, on which details/extensions
- you can do without:
Garage may be shorter
- you cannot do without:
Something open (some trick that is special/beautiful)
View of biotope strip southeast
Why is the design as it is now?
Relevant/which wishes were implemented by the architect?
Yes.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Airy, sufficient number of rooms
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the layout of the house good to meet our wishes?