Floor plan design: Single-family house with 4 bedrooms and an office, 160 sqm

I wanted to give another update on our planning.

I didn’t quite keep up with the standalone ground floor from post #48, as to which "unchanged upper floor" it refers, but apparently draft #56 is supposed to be the immediate next step of change. The "guest room" in my eyes is a "rectangular leftover area where guests can camp," and the bathroom is also a room that partly became a hall due to surplus space. And as always, I add my old refrain that fantasy dimensions create botch pockets.

I have mentioned the alternative several times: away from the city villa, towards a gable roof house where there is more space on the ground floor, the children benefit from the sloping roof area, and either there is expansion reserve in the attic or storage options.

Yes, the metamorphoses of the house design are quite a wild ride, suggesting the suspicion that planning was done without a concept (and very suboptimal inspirational drafts were used as the base for tinkering). This is certainly not an architect’s plan without quotation marks.

As I last mentioned in , I believe suitable floor plans for families with three children can be found here at @Tolentino and at @Zaba12 (where the example from @Tolentino also has a similar site situation with a rear neighbor).

- Thanks for the link to the floor plan of Tolentino! We also looked at it at the beginning for inspiration. Maybe I just lack an eye for detail, but I don't see the critical differences that clearly (aside from the hallway width). What exactly do you find better solved here?

Maybe I just lack an eye for detail, [...]. What exactly do you find better solved here?

Why wander far away (for details)? – focus on one essential: the house is already built, occupied, and proves that it works. If I remember correctly, would essentially change two things, namely not to build with a general contractor and to use a gable roof instead of a hip roof. So you can rely here on two established real house designs instead of having to tinker around confusedly. Apart from a different terrain situation, the house design by Zaba12 (which can of course be adapted to simpler plots) is just as good for you, and Tolentino’s is even more similar mainly because of the neighbor situation (with the backyard neighbor). The third child (or second home office) is always the point where the standard 2E2K nuclear-family catalog construction proposals stumble. So it means either taking an example from realized best practices (or hiring an architect without quotation marks). Besides these two in-forum examples, I don’t remember any more, since my 11-year-memory does not fully retain the oeuvre of Kerstin’s and Katja’s designs (and Yvonne herself probably does not either, because of a limited number of projects retained). I myself have not had time for years to develop corresponding plus-child variants of common catalog construction proposals. The semi-detached house developer projects usually solve this by relocating the parents’ bedroom into the attic within the II+D standard models.

So, this is my opinion and I will come up with a proposal later. What you make of it is your business.

Here is my spontaneous layout, even though the thread is a bit older:
I took the external dimensions of the last draft, roughly estimated, was it more than 160 sqm?
Plot 15 x 30.5, office/guest room has a partition wall over 3 meters, kitchen island is 220 in length, dining table 240. Sofa is 3 x 2, windows are each 2 meters wide, staircase could be longer at the base, but shorter at the top, the program can’t do that. The downstairs WC probably still needs to be modified.
Rooms positioned as they can work. As already said: a bit thrown together. A house without mistakes takes longer.
Upstairs is south.

Apparently you don't like the reaction here, so you prefer to post the draft on FB without info about and Grundstück. Just wait and see how long it takes before you get tips to retrofit pantry, children's bathroom, and basement.

Here’s my spontaneous draft, even though the thread is a bit older:
I took the exterior dimensions of the latest design, but roughly estimated, wasn’t it more than 160 sqm?
Plot 15 x 30.5, office/guest room has a screen wall over 3 meters, kitchen island is 220 in length, dining table 240. Sofa is 3 x 2, windows are each 2 meters wide, staircase could be longer at the base, but shorter at the top, the program can’t do that. The downstairs WC probably still needs modification.
Rooms are placed as they can work. As I said before: a bit thrown together. A house without mistakes takes longer.
Upstairs is south.

Thank you very much for the effort to visualize it! The layout fits very well – you’re right. We somehow assumed from the start that the long side should also face the street. Probably because all the neighbors built exactly the same way. Only the garden to the left of the house will hardly be used, and the house will stand about 3 meters further out into the "main garden" regardless. But it probably doesn’t make a difference.

Apparently you don’t like the reaction here, so you prefer to post the design on FB without info about [it] and the plot.
Wait and see how long it takes before you get tips that you should retrofit a pantry, kids’ bathroom, and cellar. Wink

Caught! Yes, I wanted to take the chance to get some additional opinions. But I’m aware that with limited information, the most sensible advice might not necessarily come. Your tips here are still important to me!