Floor plan 10x10 with 2 full floors

Hello everyone,

The following requirements are from our side:
- Staircase not directly at the entrance (not the typical quarter-turn staircase with the first step directly in the entrance area)
- Study on the ground floor
- Living, dining, kitchen at an angle
- Utility room/HAR on the ground floor
- 2 children's rooms, preferably with a view towards the garden and thus south
- each children's room with 2 windows, not just 1 window
- 1 bedroom, dressing room if possible
- 1 bathroom on the upper floor, no second separate children's bathroom

The attached drawings are to be understood as sketches, i.e. these should still be adjusted by the general contractor to the next larger standard building dimension, and the window arrangements are not yet cemented to the centimeter. According to the current idea, the house entrance together with a side panel should be the same size as the window above, so that symmetry is created there.

The staircase is designed with 17 rises (i.e. 16 steps) and overcomes a height difference of 297.5 cm (17 x 17.5 cm) with a tread depth of 28 cm. Depending on the upper floor construction and the thickness of the intermediate ceiling, this should be feasible; otherwise, millimeter range variation per rise will be necessary.

2 full floors, hipped roof 25-degree pitch. Use of the attic via folding attic ladder. Roof overhang 50 cm all around.

More or less confusingly mixed up:

[*]Would swap dressing room and bedroom. 70 cm all around is probably doable - of course a bit more would be nicer.
[*]2.15 m for the dressing room is too little for 2 rows of wardrobes - you also want to take your clothes out and look at them...
[*]I still find the little protrusion in K2 unfortunate, but you have to accept that.
[*]Couch so rigidly facing the TV is not so great either - you want to look out sometimes too - but well, you’re in good company with that (often seen).
[*]The toilet behind the door doesn't appeal to me either in the upper floor bathroom.
[*]Coat rack behind the front door is not the happiest solution... everyone has to wait until everyone is inside.
[*]Our planner once said he wants 1.13 m for door and frame (unclear if this always applies).
[*]There is no room upstairs to store vacuum cleaner and the like.

Overall, though, much better.

More or less confusingly mixed up:
I would swap the dressing room and bedroom. 70 cm all around is probably doable – of course, a bit more would be nicer.

I’ll try swapping them.

2.15 m for the dressing room is too little for 2 rows of cabinets – you also want to get your clothes out and look at them...

60+60+95 = 215.
How much do you think it should be?

I still find the “Schniepel” in K2 unfortunate, but one has to make a sacrifice somewhere

An alternative would be a gallery or something similar there. But on the one hand, we don’t need that, and on the other hand, it would be a waste of space. I think a nice armchair with a great view of the garden would also fit well there. But as I’ve said before, the very individual room design of the children’s rooms depends on which hobbies might develop later. If a bookworm, for example, it would be a great reading corner.

I also don’t like the couch rigidly facing the TV – you want to look outside sometimes, too – but okay, you’re in good company with that (you see it often)

That’s just realistic thinking. Many say the living room isn’t just for watching TV and that they deliberately don’t align the couch with the TV, but then there are regular contortions. For board games or similar, there is the proper table where you can also sit properly.

I don’t like the WC behind the door in the upstairs bathroom either

Why?

The coat rack behind the front door isn’t the happiest solution... everyone has to wait until everyone is inside

I’m not 100 percent sure about that yet either. But if you switch the door swing, then everyone says that whoever just came from the WC has to wait and can’t get through, or the one coming from upstairs has to wait.

Our planner once said he wants 1.13 for the door and frame (unclear if that always applies)

1.135 rough opening for the door, right? There is still plenty of space in the floor plan to determine the exact position plus glass side panel at the end.

There is no room upstairs for storing vacuum cleaner and stuff.

Dressing room
(let’s see what my wife says about that)
So, storage space is certainly always necessary, but whether we really buy 2 vacuum cleaners because we have 2 floors... that’s not planned right now. And so the vacuum cleaner will find its place in the utility room. My parents vacuum 4 floors with one vacuum cleaner.

Don't forget that 3 cm of plaster still needs to be removed. So if it really should be comfortable - then 1.2 m. Alternatively, you could maybe also do a 40 cm shelf row or something similar - then 1 m would be enough - so either 2.23 m or 2.43 m (as the minimum). You are generally right - alternatively, a storage room wouldn't be bad - but then the K2 is already quite a bit smaller.

With the toilet? A feeling - not scientifically proven.

No, 1.13 m for interior doors - you only have 1.05 m for the hobby room (hence the comment).

Hiding the vacuum cleaner in the dressing room is rather so-so, I think.

The wardrobe is difficult... but I also know some houses where it's just behind the door - people still live there. Whether the niche has to be 65 cm is also another question - usually you have more coat hooks and a shoe thing rather than a closet. Maybe access to the utility room through the kitchen? Tricky.

A standard interior door is probably 86cm according to DIN, 90cm wall opening, 96cm external dimension with trim.

Regarding the WC: We do lock it, if that's the concern. No, I don't need anyone hopping around in the bathroom, so on the one hand, the WC is not immediately the first thing you see when you come in, and on the other hand, there are no problems with possible door collisions, if that is the concern.

Here I've quickly swapped the bedroom and dressing room in the upper floor. I briefly researched beds again on the internet. These box spring beds apparently mostly come without frames, so a 180x200 bed is indeed almost exactly 180x200. There are definitely many under 185. I have now planned 185x220, meaning such a headboard. Oh, and these box spring beds are said to be more comfortable than regular beds.



The dressing room has almost 5 meters of wardrobe, floor to ceiling, and 1.20 meters up to the window. And with floor-to-ceiling in the dressing room, you can really go floor to ceiling. There should be... No, there has to be some storage space. For proper odds and ends, there’s also the attic.