Finally building and still have a few questions

  • Erstellt am 2017-03-29 17:21:14

Silent010

2017-04-06 08:54:42
  • #1
Oh dear - a residential area where every party encloses their territory with a 1.80m high privacy fence - I wouldn’t want to live there.

Don’t you ever want to talk to your neighbors over the fence or help out with a packet of flour when baking? With trees, hedges, and shrubs, you can create a very varied garden edge so that there is no direct view into the property and you are still open to your neighborhood.

But maybe it’s different from city to countryside. When someone builds a house here in the countryside (near the city) and puts up a 1.80m privacy fence all around, all the neighbors first shake their heads. Then it’s better to buy a detached property in the forest.

@Themenstarter: I don’t want to attack you with this, just maybe get you to reconsider. What you are planning does not promote good neighborliness – and you might have to deal with that for many years.
 

Schnuckline

2017-04-06 10:13:51
  • #2
Good morning to you both Thank you very much for your feedback. I can absolutely understand your objections. Many people have this mindset. Friendly neighborhood, talking to neighbors over the fence, having neighbors check on things, etc. We are not bad people or somehow weird, we just belong to the category "We have no idea who the people next door are and that's fine." We don't want anything from anyone and are glad if no one wants anything from us I would also never think of opening the door when it rings without someone having announced themselves beforehand. It really sounds crazy, but we feel comfortable that way. We are not recluses, we have family and very good friends with whom we share our lives. But we simply prefer to decide ourselves who we allow a glimpse into our private realm and who we don’t. If there had been the possibility to buy a free plot of land, we probably would have given our kidneys for it But unfortunately, you really can’t choose that here.
 

Silent010

2017-04-06 10:22:57
  • #3
Okay, everyone should live in the way that makes them feel comfortable. But please keep in mind that when you get older, you will eventually rely on the help of others, initially also strangers.

May I ask whether city or countryside and if you grew up there or moved in?
 

Schnuckline

2017-04-06 10:37:59
  • #4
Of course you may ask. We both spent our childhoods very rurally and then moved to rather urban areas in our young adulthood. We will now be building in Reutlingen (with 110k inhabitants it probably counts as a large city), but in a neighborhood that can be considered a suburb.
 

Escroda

2017-04-06 10:48:47
  • #5

Where do you get these dimensions from?


What else? A garden house is a building (according to the state building code, buildings are a subset of structures), which according to §14 of the Land Use Ordinance counts as a subordinate ancillary structure and is therefore also permitted outside the buildable areas if the development plan does not expressly exclude this, which it does not do here.

It means that your neighbor may be obstructed in the free view of the street when exiting his garage by the garden house or privacy fence and for that reason the approval may be refused. Likewise, for aesthetic reasons your privacy fence may not be approvable. Without concrete plans, however, no binding statement can be expected from the authority.

Not in your case, since your development plan is based on the 1968 Land Use Ordinance.

Where does this information come from? The 1990 Land Use Ordinance does not differentiate between degrees of sealing. The soil sealing was indeed the reason why §19 (4) was amended, but initially it has no effect on the calculation. Only if the floor area ratio is not met, permeability can be used as a reason for an approval-worthy exceeding. But if you know of other procedures, I would be grateful for sources; you never stop learning.

Not even a few degrees to have the house parallel to the street?

But the development plan only allows 60 cm. And 28°-35° roof pitch. Has this been clarified with the building authority?

Roof structures are also not permitted according to the development plan.
 

Curly

2017-04-06 10:53:36
  • #6


That doesn’t sound crazy to me at all. I also don’t open the door to anyone unless I know who it is. I’d rather be cautious than get robbed later.

Best regards
Sabine
 

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