Finally building and still have a few questions

  • Erstellt am 2017-03-29 17:21:14

DG

2017-03-30 12:31:49
  • #1


The garden will be visible anyway from the upper floors of the neighboring houses, no matter whether you put up a 1.5m fence or even a 3m high barrier. However, the tables can also be turned – there was a recent court ruling where neighbors tried to prohibit a sauna user from walking naked to his garden shower because the garden was visible from the surrounding upper floors. The judge said you have to tolerate that, and if you don't like it, just look away.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe
 

11ant

2017-03-30 14:55:24
  • #2
First of all, congratulations on the regulation that the fence (compared to other properties - yes, I think the street counts as such) may be higher by its boundary distance. By "absolute" I meant that fence heights usually apply regardless of where the fence is erected. A "dead" enclosure is the fence because it does not grow further like a hedge.

This regulation probably also allows the procedure mentioned here, to place a fence behind a hedge, which can then be higher by the hedge’s thickness.

The building envelope has an influence in that you could theoretically extend the lateral privacy screen of the terrace up to the eaves height within the building envelope by law (though I have never seen anyone do this). However, this is of course useless within the boundary distance (usually 2.5 or 3 m).

Surface sealing is accounted for differently in the floor space ratio and must also comply with boundary distances depending on the type.

How you are allowed to design your garden can also be set out in the development plan. However, you will not find this in the drawn plan but in the "textual provisions". If the building authority and the municipal council had too much boredom, then the botanical names of permitted hedges and fence woods and the grain sizes of the pebbles are listed there. Garden gnomes with a mohawk must cover it with a plain pointed hat.

From a street-side building boundary distance of 6-7 m, one can assume that carports may be allowed there - these can also be enclosed opaquely.

But don’t overdo it: I meant it seriously that fence height regulations are also based on the fact that with an excessively high (opaque) fence you effectively advance your neighbors’ sunset. Most neighbors have leisure activities quite different from counting calories with coffee and cake.

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I would also not do laundry on the upper floor; a leaking washing machine causes at least damage in the basement.
 

Schnuckline

2017-03-30 15:04:40
  • #3
: Usable was the wrong term now I meant rather that I don't feel comfortable in my own garden when anyone can look in there whenever they want. Just as you don't feel comfortable when anyone can look through your windows in the evening. Whether someone is standing there looking or not, for comfort you still prefer to keep the shutters down. I finally understand what you mean. The privacy fence is actually not meant to serve as a boundary, but as a privacy screen. I had imagined it something like this (see attachment): as a boundary a small wall, then 30 cm behind a privacy fence (just more opaque than the one in the picture) and in between I would also like to lay stones. Can anyone force me to plant something in the stones? If nothing is specified in the development plan?

: Exactly that is the reason why I am currently trying to clarify the issue with the fence. I want to find the exact right position for the house on the property. So far it looks like this (see attachment). The ridge direction is visible. To the north there is an undevelopable garden plot. To the east a new building is also being constructed at about the same height. To the south lies the street and the sidewalk. On the other side of the street opposite our house is another house and opposite the garden is also a garden. And to the west we have directly adjacent a driveway and a garage as well as another house next to it. How do you find the position? Do you maybe have a nicer idea?

 

Schnuckline

2017-03-30 15:14:50
  • #4
: Aha aha, thanks! You obviously know your stuff really well. I'm going to shamelessly take advantage of that now I've also read about the greenery requirement in development plans for new housing areas. Terrible! Like you are allowed to choose from 3 different trees and it has to be planted exactly there Fortunately, nothing like that is mentioned anywhere in our development plan.
That paths and parking spaces as well as roof overhangs are counted towards the site coverage ratio was known to me. Could you please take a look at the picture one post above? Do you think such stones are also included in the calculation?
And never underestimate grandmas and grandpas from the Swabian region My boyfriend sat for a few hours on the property with a folding chair to check out the situation. Mainly elderly people live all around. They all immediately came out to sweep inconspicuously or trim the hedge. Of course he was watched like he was from Mars. Within that hour he unwillingly found out who built what where and when and who lent their lawnmower to whom. That made it clear to us: privacy screen, as high as possible!
 

Curly

2017-03-30 15:29:08
  • #5
Why don't you place the house "straight" on the property and put your terrace on the west side, or are you planning two terraces?

LG
Sabine
 

11ant

2017-03-30 15:41:36
  • #6
Me and being knowledgeable, well. Three gentlemen here have already chosen me as their favorite chatterbox

I like your taste, but it looks ... uh ... let’s say: "not exactly cheap."

I also consider this solution viable. For example, turf grid stones usually "cost" a 20% floor area charge.

The thick dark pink line indicates the course of the recessed fence ?

Some development plans only allow garden sheds at the back. Then I would want to place the carport at the planned spot.

Are the suggested shutters planned that way, and the exit to the terrace on the west side ?

If the fence leads toward the corner of the house, the space there could become a beaten path to circumvent the fence.

How interesting Martians look, I don’t know. In my youth it was "contribution from Jupiter, the swarm of all women"

But oaständicha Schwoaba hend da gwiß bloß emoal luege welle, ob dr jonge Ma noa oinem ausschaud der wo zichdig d´ Kehrwoch oihäld wann er ´s gschafft hat ´s Häisla z´ Bauamt.

For you yourself I don’t see any "danger," after all the refrain ends "ond ned nach de Mädla schauen"

P.S.: if you don’t happen to overhear who lent the lawnmower to whom, but receive this information directly, then you have arrived. Here’s to good neighborhood!
 

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