Extra bathroom from the bedroom or storage room after all?

Our living room is currently this big and completely sufficient. Everyone has their own opinions on that... We don't like a big one because it wastes a lot of space that, in our opinion, is not needed. Key word here is dining area. If you have a big kitchen anyway. And if you want a guest room downstairs and a bigger utility room.

But that's not what this is about... It also says that the access should be from the bedroom. hhhhmmmm...

I somehow find your floor plan a bit "old-fashioned," to put it that way. Do you want to cook and work in a kitchen and constantly look at a wall or out of the tiny window? That’s no better in your own house than in some apartment. You can’t even see the kids in the living room while working in the kitchen (just in case you have any). We used to have a 24sqm living room too, but that doesn’t mean it always has to stay that way. Have you ever looked at model homes and checked how big the rooms are there? Then I also noticed that your staircase is so short. How is that supposed to work, it looks like it’s missing about three steps? Or is your ceiling that low?

Regards Sabine

I find your floor plan kind of a bit "old-fashioned," so to speak. Do you want to cook and work in a kitchen and constantly look at a wall or out of the tiny window? That’s no better in your own house than in any apartment. You can't even see the kids in the living room while working in the kitchen (only if you have any). We used to have a 24sqm living room too, but it doesn't always have to stay that way. Have you ever looked at model homes and checked how big the rooms are? Then I also noticed your stairs are so short. How is that supposed to work, it looks like you’re missing about three steps? Or is your ceiling that low?

Regards,
Sabine

Where do you look while cooking/working? Well, I look at the stove or the plate or the boards...
As you can probably see correctly, there is a double sliding door between cooking and living. Regarding your opinion about children playing: the doors have windows. But if that’s the criterion, how do you see your children when you’re sitting on the toilet? Do you have a window inside every wall? Basically, it’s always the case that something is criticized in one place but exists elsewhere as well and can’t be changed...
Regarding the wall. One is indeed needed there because of kitchen cabinets.
Generally, it’s like this: nowadays the majority follow every trend. Open kitchens and large living rooms are trendy. We wonder why follow every trend if you don’t value those things? What good is a large living room if other rooms are “tiny” and I have so much space in my big living room that I don’t even use when I sit on the couch? Why an open kitchen if I don’t want the whole house to stink after cooking and frying? Especially since furniture, walls, etc. suffer from that too.
But everyone has their own opinions. For us, that’s not an option at all...

Stairs? Steps? Measurements are within the norm. Also a normal ceiling height of 2.60 m. Surely there are some that are longer, but also some that are shorter and therefore steeper. The stairs have the usual standard dimensions.
And just because you once had this or that in an apartment doesn’t mean it has to be different and bigger in a house if you don’t need it. I grew up in an apartment where the bathroom was about 5sqm. Now I have a bathroom of 10sqm. But I don’t care because for washing, brushing teeth, sitting on the toilet, etc., the 5sqm were enough... just for comparison. In the new house it’s even about 12sqm...

Sure, you can always follow the newest trends and build such houses. But for me, a house must also be functional and the rooms useful.

I agree with you about the bathroom, but 24 sqm for eating and living is also very tight.. especially since the kitchen layout has a lot of dead space.

Well, you now want to join the trend with the third bathroom, and then also en suite, that's so trendy! Sliding doors between the living room and kitchen are also trendy... Wasn't it that you didn't want sliding doors anymore, but a proper partition wall?

But everyone is free to live as they like and how their house is designed.

You deserve all your rooms, just the way you want them! However, everyone wants to watch TV from the comfortable, accordingly spacious couch where the whole family has space, without twisting their heads. When vacuuming, you shouldn't have to knock over all the furniture. I understand what Curly means by "old-fashioned"... I also see your living room as the Becker family's living room, where the Christmas tree loses its needles prematurely only because you constantly bump into the branches due to the tight space and have to forgo a dining table for space reasons and instead prefer the swivel tile table. We also have the topic of smelly food in the forum in every second floor plan discussion; I don't want to repeat that now.

It seems to me as if you have not yet participated in any floor plan discussion or otherwise dealt with room arrangements and their "mandatory dimensions." Therefore, you shouldn't judge the understandable tips but also the astonishment at your argumentation and stubbornness. we used to have it like that too... I'm done now, and I don't want any changes. Those are really phrases you have outgrown. Why is the bathroom now 12 and not 5-6 sqm? Why do the kids' rooms have this size? Why not build 30 sqm less living space right away; kids also grow up in one room? Exactly, rhetorical questions; the answer: you want to improve yourself :)

I wonder if I will get an answer to the bedroom question from me to you? :rolleyes:

I see it exactly the same way as ypg, if something can be improved compared to before, why not?
The sliding door will always be open anyway, at the latest when (or if) there are children. They will definitely never go from the sofa through the living room door into the hallway and then back through the kitchen door into the kitchen :). Mine would say "you go around the outside if that’s fun for you." While cooking or working in the kitchen, you can still talk to the rest of the family and also look up now and then. As it is planned now, you always have to turn around. I just wanted to suggest a few ideas, if you are perfectly happy with it as it is, then it’s fine. In a forum, there are always many opinions and ideas and everyone picks out the information they want to have.
Regards
Sabine

Hey Sauerpeter. So in my opinion, everyone should build the way they think is right. Because everyone has different needs and ideas. Although I also tend to get advice from "experienced" builders. At least I have taken one or the other piece of advice from friends into account with our design. I personally find the living and dining area quite tight, but that’s not really the point here. If you put your bed under the window, on the opposite side, it should work with the door and the master bathroom, right? Of course, the prerequisite is that you don’t take a floor-to-ceiling window. Whether that is practical for cleaning, etc., you have to decide for yourself. But just because of cleaning, I wouldn’t give up the additional bathroom. And as far as storage possibilities are concerned, you are not badly off. Space is like money. You can never have enough :-)