Dining table in a small kitchen

You are fundamentally, of course, completely right; maybe we are currently focusing too much on the square meters.

Although the question of furniture placement in all other rooms would not be a problem, this is very specifically about the kitchen and my fixed idea of having a table in it.

I don’t need a table in the kitchen that offers 5-6 seats. It should simply be a small table where four of us can have breakfast in the morning or where a child can later do homework or draw if they want to... it doesn’t have to be big, but I want a kitchen with a seating area for us. I don’t know it any other way, and I don’t want to do without it.

I imagine something large. A table of easy-care quality, simply wipeable, chairs that are easy to clean.

I definitely want an L-shaped kitchen, but I don’t know if this L-shape can be realized in the room "Gast" because of the entrance door to the room and the exit door to the garden? My eye has no spatial view for this when I only see such a plan.

Do you know the dimensions of the room? Then it is easy to see if it is even possible. Kitchen 60 cm deep - passage xx cm - table 200 cm I would say that to pass through comfortably the passage should be over 100 cm. So that makes a room width of at least 360 cm.

The question is not stupid at all no, I haven't yet. I haven't bought a kitchen or a bistro table yet, so I can only calculate roughly how big which piece of furniture could theoretically be. But I also don't know the sizes and swing areas of the doors. I think we will have to discuss that again with an architect.

I am now quite shocked reading this: some problems that are a bit older than this thread are coming up for you, and then you have to read that you haven't even bought a few bucks' worth of graph paper to sketch out your problem.
You put everything into the mentioned square meters, but you don't even know how much fits or doesn't fit into one sqm.

I am really amazed. At the latest when I listed how much space what consumes, you should have started drawing. Are there really no drawings on graph paper with you???

It should just be a small table where four of us can have breakfast in the morning

Your homework for yourself is to check how big such a table is or how much surface area a table occupied by four people needs.
A table that can seat one person on each side is not suitable for placing against the wall.

Then deal with the dimensions of a standard kitchen. It doesn't matter whether the future furniture measures 58 or 59 cm, a built-in buffer of 10-15 cm is needed anyway for such a room. One usually counts on a standard cabinet of 60 cm (length/width).

Look on Ikea online, better yet: visit Ikea; Ikea is the best example for furnishing small rooms.
Take a tape measure with you and measure distances between table and kitchen unit, and evaluate whether the dimensions really work.
If your backside gets caught somewhere, there is not enough space.
Ikea also has an online planner, where, I believe, you can also integrate tables and chairs into the room.

Or we reduce the almost 11 sqm kitchen to about 7-8 (that should be enough for a unit with a sofa bed?), but then can give these 3 sqm to the living room? Although shifting that would involve load-bearing walls...

What do you gain then from the 3 sqm added to the living room? I think this is about the kitchen?
7-8 sqm does not necessarily have to be enough, but it can be. Draw it out please!

P.s. You really have to engage a bit more with the house so you know what you’re getting.

Simply narrow the passage to the dining area in the existing kitchen to about one meter (and shift it towards the long L-leg of the kitchen unit), move the door to the hallway according to the plans (where the short leg of the L is). Then there should be room for a narrow but elongated table above the door to the hallway.

The long side goes against the wall, no one sits there. Two people sit on the other long side, one person on each short side. With the room’s measurements, this could be calculated now, but I guess that you could roughly manage with 0.6 for the kitchen unit, 1 m for the passage, and 0.7 m for the table.

It will be tight when someone sits at the long side of the table, but once the children are old enough and don’t crumble everything, the table can also be removed if necessary.

The requirement was just a small seating area IN ADDITION to the table in the dining area?! there’s no need for a 2-meter table...

[NARROW the passage to the dining area in the existing kitchen to about one meter (and move it towards the long L-leg of the kitchen unit), move the door to the hallway according to the plan (where the short leg of the L is). Then there should be space for a narrow but elongated table above the door to the hallway.]

I had a similar idea as well. Our kitchen is similar in layout, although we have a generous 14 sqm and therefore a bit over 4 x 3 m. Our general contractor has an architect who creates the house floor plans individually and does not rely on standard proposals (so the kitchen layout was also customized since we said from the start that we want a table for 4 people in the kitchen). Where the wall opening is, we installed a sliding door to the living room. Since your kitchen is narrower than ours, the sliding door would have to be narrower than the current opening (standard door size). Furthermore, the approach suggested by [USER=25027]@Maria16 regarding moving the hallway door makes sense, as the narrow kitchen actually only allows a table in the corner “created” by her. With 3 m width, other possibilities would be available.