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HilfeHilfe

2018-04-23 14:23:20
  • #1


I only know cases where it happened. And the children were of legal age. Ex and child out, the 22-year-old Romanian bedfellow in.
 

Climbee

2018-04-23 14:52:27
  • #2
I think the problem is simply multi-layered.

With a marriage, I enter into a "deal" with the state: I relieve it of certain care obligations for my partner, and in return, it gives me some "carrots". Of course, this makes my partnership somewhat more binding than if I live "in a common-law relationship". I allow everyone to carefully consider whether they want it that way.
One "carrot" is, for example, in the event of a partner's death, that I stand significantly better as an heir. And really significantly better than a partner to whom I can bequeath something testamentarily but who always has to pay much more than a spouse. Not to mention a widow’s/widower’s pension. And these are simply sums that are a big deal when it comes to a shared house.
We marry exactly for this reason and will, in case of emergency, conclude a marriage contract that will hopefully make a never-occurring separation easier. We have long since decided to live as a couple and would not need this state "blessing" for ourselves (the church one even less), but if we can better secure each other with it, then we do it.

I have never understood why so many women agree that HE is allowed to build up wealth/property, but they should not participate in it. This happens very often, and to be honest, I am completely baffled every time how, sorry for the expression, utterly stupid so many women are. A classic: he buys lasting assets (furniture, car, etc.) that, of course, both use — clearly — but his name is on the invoice. In the case of real estate, he is the owner. She covers the costs of the running household because: she usually does the shopping anyway, which is much more practical.
In case of separation? It’s all his; her share has been eaten up. After years, she is left with nothing in her hands, but he was only able to increase his wealth/property because she covered all the ongoing costs.
And this has crossed my path more than once. And the women always found that okay (at least until the separation *harhar*). And the men see it as a matter of course. "I earn more, so I buy the more expensive things!" That’s how people also sell it socially. I could go ballistic every time.

I can understand if one party contributes much more equity, already owns the land, etc., that in the case of separation one might want to say: I own xy% of the house, my partner only v%. That’s legitimate, but that can also be documented. Still, I want to secure my partner in case something should happen to me as the "majority owner." Even more so if there are children together.
 

Egon12

2018-04-23 14:52:32
  • #3


You misunderstand me, I don’t assume a separation but am trying to secure my girlfriend since I am the sole breadwinner, my "loss" is covered by the term life insurance.

I have to make the will so that she retains a right of residence, otherwise she would have no rights to the house.

If we were married, these "problems" wouldn’t exist, but whether someone wants to marry is now a personal life decision and doesn’t necessarily have financial reasons.

Climbee described it well
 

Kekse

2018-04-23 14:58:26
  • #4
Yes, you say that now, when everything is fine between you. If it isn't anymore, you can still fill out a form and make a new will and she has NOTHING left, no security, nothing at all. That would be far too uncertain for me, and if I were to find out someday that my children are making such arrangements, I would give them a serious talking-to. I’m not saying that you will or even intend to do that, but this "security" is simply none. Or at least very limited.
 

HilfeHilfe

2018-04-23 15:21:55
  • #5


I agree with Kekse on that. Now everyone argues morally that they handle it that way and the woman is not worse off.

But if he or she cheats the whole thing turns upside down. If she cheats, has a new one = she gets nothing anymore. Or are you going to offer her your money so that she is provided for?

If he cheats and has a new partner = are you going to voluntarily give away your money to have trouble with the new one about why you are treating your ex?

Everything in the relationship is always rose-colored. I've experienced some stories.

Shortly before the breakup she bought expensive furniture with his money under her name, he still assembled it, two weeks later she had a new guy (very very suddenly). Moved out with new furniture to the new guy’s place. Daycare, sports club etc. all already arranged in the new village.
 

haydee

2018-04-23 16:24:46
  • #6
When it comes to divorce rates and separations of life partnerships (are probably similar values), one should agree in advance. At a time when everything is still peachy keen. I think at that point decisions are made that are reasonable and take concerns into account. In a bitter divorce, everyone only sees themselves and the 10-year-old Aldi bowls become a topic of dispute. At least one person is really deeply hurt.
 

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