Collect floor plans of 150m2 for our house

  • Erstellt am 2017-02-06 09:36:26

ypg

2017-02-10 13:36:00
  • #1


Anyone who wants the laundry piles and the noise of the running washing machine in the bathroom is welcome to do so. We do not know if it bothers your niece.
 

Climbee

2017-02-10 15:17:50
  • #2


I find that attitude quite disrespectful, sorry. To me, it sounds like you think you know everything and the two can only do everything wrong. It makes me shudder with the mansard roof and also with the cottage (fits into the English countryside, but into a German new housing development???? Argh... just like those gorgeous Tuscan-style villas *shudders*). So, I’m definitely not on the same page as those two "rookies," but they are adults, they have their own ideas, and they have the right to do it that way. Since the budget is limited, I bet my head it will come down to some suitable standard floor plan from a well-known builder. But they are allowed to dream of something else first. Reality will definitely bring them down to earth soon enough.

Overall, I find it a bit presumptuous to already make floor plan drafts after having talked to the "rookies" for just half an hour. (Why do professional architects probably always need longer???)

Do they even want that? Will your suggestions be welcomed? Personally, I would probably forbid my uncle from doing that. Unless I know he really knows what he’s doing or I like his house so much that I ASK for support. Then it’s legitimate.

You say you’re doing this for fun. That’s fine. Do it because YOU enjoy it and it makes you happy to design something. But then there comes the next sentence, which personally annoys me:



Uh, WE will put everything on the table and stir it vigorously? Are you sure you are part of the decision-making process? Have they told you that, asked you? To me, that’s quite presumptuous again (maybe I’m a bit sensitive about that).

In the previous posts, I always get a bit of an arrogance vibe, as if "the rookies" have no clue and you want to present them with the ultimate solution.

My personal opinion: Let them do it, reality will painfully clip their wings soon enough. If they don’t explicitly ask you for help with the planning, I would hold back discreetly and wait to see what comes from them. If they appreciate your expertise, they will ask you. If it’s itching in your fingers to design something, then ask the two if you MAY support them (!!!), but accept if the answer is "no."

They are adults, they are building THEIR house and have a right to their mistakes and ideas. If they ask for support, great. But for me, this is turning into a farce (half an hour of talking, no one has asked the uncle for help so far, yet he’s already planning the niece’s house quite concretely because he thinks he knows better than the future homeowners, that really has potential for a comedy of errors, sorry!).

I think if it’s itching in your fingers, first ask if support is wanted. And then there should probably be a thorough conversation about what the ideas are, the budget, what absolutely has to be included, what not, etc. Listen to that without prejudice and then you can make your (surely well-intentioned) suggestions.

Oh, and one more thing:

There is a difference between design errors and execution errors.
 

Maria16

2017-02-10 16:42:36
  • #3


Hello Kaho, this constant "we" does surprise me a lot, though. We pool together, we're happy when the money is enough for one house, and we don't consider ourselves the poorest. "We are three building families, we'll straighten this out" was said, I think – and I got the impression that the ACTUAL builders in those three families aren't even included yet, but only three others who have already finished it.

I do wonder whether you are partly paying for the young ones' house and possibly moving in with them.
 

kaho674

2017-02-10 18:34:07
  • #4


Yes, we are a different family than others. That is probably certain. We do a lot together. For example, we all go on vacation together. Almost every weekend we all meet for lunch. If something is wrong, we come together and look for solutions.
And yes, when the decision about the house was made, the niece announced to the group that we now have this project together and everyone should help.

Of course, the two of them make all decisions alone in the end. That is clear. But we all enjoy it together with the three of them and they don’t seem patronized at all - on the contrary. No one talks over my niece so easily.

So please stop the whining about me patronizing my niece and pressuring or annoying her with suggestions. It’s not like that - really. Especially since I only make the floor plans for my own fun, as I have emphasized several times.
 

Climbee

2017-02-10 19:08:50
  • #5
Nice if it is like that. It just comes across completely differently here.
 

kbt09

2017-02-10 20:16:37
  • #6
I would even try to avoid that in a rental apartment ... even worse, however, is a washing machine in the kitchen.
 

Similar topics
21.07.2015Size of utility room / space in front of washing machine15
07.09.2015Washing machine and dryer in the dressing room?16
22.02.2016Lift the washing machine18
27.07.2017Miele washing machine with pre-ironing16
07.09.2015Washing machine and dishwasher in Ikea Metod tall cabinet?32
01.03.2018Washing machine broken - What could be the problem?74
11.03.2020Cold water faucet + drainage connection for washing machine15
31.08.2020Do you need a base for the washing machine?20
25.08.2022Laundry tower for washing machine and dryer wanted19
19.09.2022Washing machine and dryer in the basement or upstairs?14
09.05.2023Connection for washing machine was forgotten in the new building15
09.03.2025Washing machine smells like sewage10

Oben