Carport that must not be a carport

  • Erstellt am 2017-01-14 20:55:14

ypg

2017-04-22 01:13:48
  • #1
So far, no development plan has been posted here, nor a drawing with a legend...

Regards, Yvonne
 

Kaspatoo

2017-04-22 12:59:00
  • #2
Yes, a sketch is definitely missing here.

I understood that the house is set back 3m from the street. The carport is now supposed to be built IN FRONT of the house, that is, from the house directly up to 0.0m at the street. In other words, the creator wants to build the carport entirely within the 3m area in front of the street, precisely the area that clearly states that NOTHING may be built there.

If I understood that correctly, I also wonder why the architect and the builders overlooked this.

A similar restricted area usually exists around the house for boundary construction. That is, not only towards the street but also towards the neighboring properties. However, it is often permissible to build within the 3m area if a height of 3m on average is not exceeded and often only then if construction is parallel or exactly on the property boundary (not diagonal to the boundary).

Otherwise, there are things like tents for the car, which are not subject to building regulations. Something similar might apply for self-constructed movable "carports" ("conjure one out of the ground"). But this is more wishful thinking than economically sensible and legally unclear.
 

KrustyDerClown

2017-04-22 21:41:42
  • #3


Exactly right. :) The house stands 3 meters away from the street. Exactly in front of the house (that is, at the 3-meter distance from the street) I want to place a carport.

The development plan reads as follows:

2. Areas for parking spaces, garages and ancillary facilities (§ 9 (1) No. 4 Building Code)
2.1 Throughout the planning area, garages must maintain a distance of at least 3.00 m from street traffic areas.
2.2 Structural ancillary facilities according to § 14 Land Use Ordinance must be built with a distance of at least 3.00 m from street traffic areas and have a maximum size of 15 m³.

My (new) argument would now be:

Only garages are mentioned under 2.1, no carports or covered parking spaces.
Under 2.2: § 14 Land Use Ordinance does not cover carports. So it is not relevant.

Therefore, for the 3 meters (between the house and the street), the State Building Code would apply. The State Building Code clearly distinguishes between garages and covered parking spaces (carports?!). Therefore, the State Building Code should apply for a carport and not the development plan.

If I understand the State Building Code of Rhineland-Palatinate correctly, it is basically permitted / possible to build a covered parking space on these 3 meters.

Any objections or questions?

Regards Oliver
 

ypg

2017-04-22 22:14:44
  • #4
I understand what you mean. I can understand your objection.
Nevertheless, I am missing the entire BePlan with the plan because:
Many things are mentioned and regulated under other points. There may be references in another section to the building envelope or building line, to the setback areas from the street, etc... no idea... I have experienced that you have to read it in its entirety.

Best regards, Yvonne
 

Payday

2017-04-22 22:30:54
  • #5
I believe he wanted to place his carport in front of the house (the 3 meters) directly by the street. And that is exactly not allowed. By the way, this is permitted on almost no property...

Actually, the solution is quite simple. Next to the house, 3 meters from the boundary, you are allowed to set up your 9-meter-long carport with the width of your choice. The architect should have informed you about this earlier in the whole matter. It is always amazing how such trivial things get rejected in applications. As if only fools create these applications.
 

Caspar2020

2017-04-22 23:10:11
  • #6


No.

Because



For a garage, this is only slightly relaxed in the building code.

And a structural installation is after all

 

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