Assemble kitchen appliance cabinet yourself

  • Erstellt am 2016-05-04 02:50:46

nachtvogel

2016-05-04 02:50:46
  • #1
First of all, an overview of my planning:

In my kitchen planning, I have an L-shape with an additional island against the wall.
The long side will have tall cabinets on the right and left of the corner.
The short side under the window must not be Ikea height – otherwise I would interfere with the window.
Not Ikea depth either – otherwise I would bump into the door.

A top view overview:


Please don’t mind the missing fronts, I can’t get matching ones in the planner.
Or rather, the required carcass doesn’t have the fronts or layout I want.

The long side.
From right to left...
- Spacer strip standing
- Tall cabinet = 20 cm drawer, 122 cm high refrigerator with 140 cm front, 60 cm compartment above.
- Cooktop niche 200 cm wide, with upper cabinets, built-in extractor hood, the light wall part is a niche.
- Dishwasher elevated, 40 cm drawer, dishwasher, 40 cm compartment, 60 cm compartment (compartment above dishwasher may still be adjusted)
- Tall cabinet with oven and combi microwave,
- in the corner then the kitchen and coffee machine cabinet. (more about that below)
- Spacer strip standing 5 cm wide.
Around the corner it continues
- with 70 cm high carcasses.


So in the corner there should be a 60x60 cm carcass at 2.20 m height. Next to it I also depicted the oven tall cabinet
so you can better imagine it.


- After the uniform plinth comes an empty corner. As a finish a base so that nothing can fall down into the corner with me.
- At the height of the worktop under the window there is a spacer strip so that the worktop has a finish,
at the same time gaining some distance for the door from the worktop. It should open over the worktop.
- The door opens 40 cm towards the wall with the Utrusta hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the kitchen machine fits and I can pull it almost flush over the worktop with additional sliders on the base.
- Next door opens 40 cm towards the wall with UTRUSTA hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the coffee machine fits and I can pull it out at eye level.
- Above that still a spacer strip, possibly also between the 40 cm doors.
- Above that a 60 cm compartment for rarely used items.


Under the window I have only about 83 cm window sill bottom height.
Since there is a door on the left, I only have 57 cm rough construction dimension. The old frame of the normal door will be removed.
We are installing a sliding door. Inside the passage will be plastered generously so that I can gain a few cm depth on the window side.

There I want to start from the right with a spacer strip – because of the distance to the left side for opening the sliders. Then follow 2x 80x60 cm base cabinet carcasses. In the left corner there are about 17 cm of space for a spacer strip.
We want to shorten the carcasses by 10 cm in height and, if possible, also in depth.
The worktop will be shortened in depth. (Therefore 10 cm empty on the picture)
At the corner door worktop, the end of the sliding door will be built into the worktop.
So I have as little overhang as possible into the door opening there.

I want to install drawers in the carcasses.
Ikea has Maximera drawers in 37 cm, 45 cm and 60 cm depth. I would like the 60 cm deep ones.
My question now is
Are these drawers really 60 cm deep in depth, i.e., the rail length – so that carcass shortening is not possible? Is there maybe 1–2 cm play at the back?
After all, the interior fittings like the knife compartment are only 50 cm deep.
I do not want to give up over 20 cm of storage depth over the entire width under the window because of 1–2 cm.
I do not want a stepped surface; I have had that so far and can’t stand it anymore.

Or would the Förvara drawers be an easier solution, which are specified with 52 cm depth?

Due to the 70 cm height, I would install 40 cm, 20 cm and 10 cm drawers.
With the Förvora, I would alternatively take 3x 20 cm and 1x 10 cm.

One last quick look at the dishwasher island.
The partition wall hides the pull doors. In the middle remains space to get the water to the desired place.
The island will be 80 cm deep. Behind the normal cabinets, narrow side ones will be installed still – left 20x60 cm and right 20x40 cm shortened.


Maybe someone has an idea for me.

Bye Sabine
 

Herr_Sondermann

2016-05-04 19:10:10
  • #2
Hello Sabine,

I can't answer your question, but just briefly something else, are you sure that the door of the lower oven opens like that? I don't know how it is shown in the Ikea planner, but normally the countertop extends slightly over the fronts. I didn't have that in my last kitchen, which looked good but was very impractical.

I would also reconsider the sink without a countertop on the right side. Water splashes here and there, and that then ends up on the floor. Apart from that, I find having counter space on both sides of the sink quite useful.

Sorry if this deviates a bit from the actual question
 

nachtvogel

2016-05-04 22:10:48
  • #3
Hello Sondermann,

oh, new perspectives bring new thoughts or make me rethink a situation – whether it’s already right as it is – or why I want it exactly that way. I think it all serves the purpose of finding my kitchen.

On the wall with the oven, I have a 5cm filler strip on the left in the corner; at 66 cm the tall oven cabinet begins. That way, with 63.5 cm depth on the window side, I already have some space. The window side won’t be that deep, but a bit shorter, maybe about 60-62 cm. Plus a filler strip to the long side so the drawers don’t scrape past the "oven."

In the first draft, I also had the sink roughly centered. Exactly your thoughts. If I do that, I won’t have a nice large workspace on the left for preparing vegetables anymore. Now I have over 1 m wide and 80 cm deep there. I have space at the back to put dishes, space in the small right sink, and I want to put some kind of draining thing behind the sink on the wall. (Most of it goes into the dishwasher anyway.) My sink is installed so that the "main sink" is inside and the smaller one, e.g., for draining salad or vegetables, is on the outside. After quite a few considerations, that seems much more sensible to me.

Bye Sabine
 

IKEA-Experte

2016-05-05 14:26:29
  • #4
Uff, too much to read, I didn't understand everything.

"The partition wall hides the sliding doors." I don't understand.
Calculate the depth of the MAXIMERA as 54 cm if they are not used as internal drawers. The nominal length is 53 cm.
"So I have as little overhang as possible into the door opening there." The sliding door? Does that mean it won't be able to open fully?
Have you considered replacing the windowsill with a worktop pulled into the window niche?
Pay attention to a locking function for the drawers for the kitchen and coffee machine.
"After the uniform plinth comes an empty corner. As a finish, a floor there so nothing can fall down into the corner with me." I don't understand.
Have you already found a built-in extractor hood that fits into the cabinet?
 

nachtvogel

2016-05-05 15:18:01
  • #5
Hello IKEA expert,

yes I know. It’s just a lot of extra stuff.

True, they also pointed me to the sink at the edge because of the larger workspace and upon closer consideration that seems very sensible to me.


The sliding doors are mounted ON the wall. To open them I slide them behind this partition wall.
Here is an old planning image with a half-high panel behind the island. Doors closed.
[ATTACH alt="kuechenmaschinenschrank-selbst-zusammenstellen-188541-1.jpg" type="full"]27180[/ATTACH]
The doors in white now represent the opened doors, so where they are pushed to.
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With this partition wall, paneling in tall, the doors completely disappear behind the partition wall when opening and I think
the island looks so much better that way. The doors in the picture are half open....... the planner certainly wouldn't open them so that there would be a hole in the wall.
[ATTACH alt="kuechenmaschinenschrank-selbst-zusammenstellen-188541-3.jpg" type="full"]27182[/ATTACH]


Are they really not longer???
I searched forever and found no info about the exact installation length.
The assembly pictures don’t show any sizes either.... and I only have a 45cm Maximera drawer which also has exactly a length of 45 cm. So I was totally unsure about that now.
If they are not longer, then the shortened installation would work great.


Yes .... the door is pushed into the middle of the room.
And as I said, if Maximera is only 54 cm, I can take 5cm from the carcass and then I have no overhang at all.


I have so far. But the new kitchen will be 6cm higher.
I wouldn’t be able to open the window anymore. And honestly – I don’t want that anymore, I want an extra windowsill. That was really often a topic and I tested quite a bit – from nothing on the wall to a bench or countertop with seating.


You mean they lock when pulled out?
So they hopefully don’t slide back into the cabinet on me while working.
Good tip... ...I hadn’t thought about that so far.


It’s about the corner - transition from the long wall to the window side.
I want the tall cabinet at the end of the long side.
The window side already starts before that. So the corner remains empty below. I can’t access it either from one side or the other. That’s why I want to install a fixed bottom under the drawer where the kitchen machine stands – so that when the drawer is open – nothing can fall down into the empty corner.
[ATTACH alt="kuechenmaschinenschrank-selbst-zusammenstellen-188541-4.jpg" type="full"]27183[/ATTACH]
Hope this is clearer now.


There’s one directly at Ikea.
I was thinking quite simply about this one:
[ATTACH alt="kuechenmaschinenschrank-selbst-zusammenstellen-188541-1.jpg" type="full"]27180[/ATTACH]
Underverk
Extractor hood, built-in, stainless steel


This is also offered to me by the planner.

Bye Sabine
 

Nörgli

2016-05-05 15:37:54
  • #6
Quick question about the sink: what is on the right side? Is there still countertop at the edge? (I’m only on my phone, so it’s not all that easy to see.)
 

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