nachtvogel
2016-05-04 02:50:46
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First of all, an overview of my planning:
In my kitchen planning, I have an L-shape with an additional island against the wall.
The long side will have tall cabinets on the right and left of the corner.
The short side under the window must not be Ikea height – otherwise I would interfere with the window.
Not Ikea depth either – otherwise I would bump into the door.
A top view overview:

Please don’t mind the missing fronts, I can’t get matching ones in the planner.
Or rather, the required carcass doesn’t have the fronts or layout I want.
The long side.
From right to left...
- Spacer strip standing
- Tall cabinet = 20 cm drawer, 122 cm high refrigerator with 140 cm front, 60 cm compartment above.
- Cooktop niche 200 cm wide, with upper cabinets, built-in extractor hood, the light wall part is a niche.
- Dishwasher elevated, 40 cm drawer, dishwasher, 40 cm compartment, 60 cm compartment (compartment above dishwasher may still be adjusted)
- Tall cabinet with oven and combi microwave,
- in the corner then the kitchen and coffee machine cabinet. (more about that below)
- Spacer strip standing 5 cm wide.
Around the corner it continues
- with 70 cm high carcasses.

So in the corner there should be a 60x60 cm carcass at 2.20 m height. Next to it I also depicted the oven tall cabinet
so you can better imagine it.
- After the uniform plinth comes an empty corner. As a finish a base so that nothing can fall down into the corner with me.
- At the height of the worktop under the window there is a spacer strip so that the worktop has a finish,
at the same time gaining some distance for the door from the worktop. It should open over the worktop.
- The door opens 40 cm towards the wall with the Utrusta hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the kitchen machine fits and I can pull it almost flush over the worktop with additional sliders on the base.
- Next door opens 40 cm towards the wall with UTRUSTA hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the coffee machine fits and I can pull it out at eye level.
- Above that still a spacer strip, possibly also between the 40 cm doors.
- Above that a 60 cm compartment for rarely used items.
Under the window I have only about 83 cm window sill bottom height.
Since there is a door on the left, I only have 57 cm rough construction dimension. The old frame of the normal door will be removed.
We are installing a sliding door. Inside the passage will be plastered generously so that I can gain a few cm depth on the window side.
There I want to start from the right with a spacer strip – because of the distance to the left side for opening the sliders. Then follow 2x 80x60 cm base cabinet carcasses. In the left corner there are about 17 cm of space for a spacer strip.
We want to shorten the carcasses by 10 cm in height and, if possible, also in depth.
The worktop will be shortened in depth. (Therefore 10 cm empty on the picture)
At the corner door worktop, the end of the sliding door will be built into the worktop.
So I have as little overhang as possible into the door opening there.
I want to install drawers in the carcasses.
Ikea has Maximera drawers in 37 cm, 45 cm and 60 cm depth. I would like the 60 cm deep ones.
My question now is
Are these drawers really 60 cm deep in depth, i.e., the rail length – so that carcass shortening is not possible? Is there maybe 1–2 cm play at the back?
After all, the interior fittings like the knife compartment are only 50 cm deep.
I do not want to give up over 20 cm of storage depth over the entire width under the window because of 1–2 cm.
I do not want a stepped surface; I have had that so far and can’t stand it anymore.
Or would the Förvara drawers be an easier solution, which are specified with 52 cm depth?
Due to the 70 cm height, I would install 40 cm, 20 cm and 10 cm drawers.
With the Förvora, I would alternatively take 3x 20 cm and 1x 10 cm.
One last quick look at the dishwasher island.
The partition wall hides the pull doors. In the middle remains space to get the water to the desired place.
The island will be 80 cm deep. Behind the normal cabinets, narrow side ones will be installed still – left 20x60 cm and right 20x40 cm shortened.

Maybe someone has an idea for me.
Bye Sabine
In my kitchen planning, I have an L-shape with an additional island against the wall.
The long side will have tall cabinets on the right and left of the corner.
The short side under the window must not be Ikea height – otherwise I would interfere with the window.
Not Ikea depth either – otherwise I would bump into the door.
A top view overview:
Please don’t mind the missing fronts, I can’t get matching ones in the planner.
Or rather, the required carcass doesn’t have the fronts or layout I want.
The long side.
From right to left...
- Spacer strip standing
- Tall cabinet = 20 cm drawer, 122 cm high refrigerator with 140 cm front, 60 cm compartment above.
- Cooktop niche 200 cm wide, with upper cabinets, built-in extractor hood, the light wall part is a niche.
- Dishwasher elevated, 40 cm drawer, dishwasher, 40 cm compartment, 60 cm compartment (compartment above dishwasher may still be adjusted)
- Tall cabinet with oven and combi microwave,
- in the corner then the kitchen and coffee machine cabinet. (more about that below)
- Spacer strip standing 5 cm wide.
Around the corner it continues
- with 70 cm high carcasses.
So in the corner there should be a 60x60 cm carcass at 2.20 m height. Next to it I also depicted the oven tall cabinet
so you can better imagine it.
- After the uniform plinth comes an empty corner. As a finish a base so that nothing can fall down into the corner with me.
- At the height of the worktop under the window there is a spacer strip so that the worktop has a finish,
at the same time gaining some distance for the door from the worktop. It should open over the worktop.
- The door opens 40 cm towards the wall with the Utrusta hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the kitchen machine fits and I can pull it almost flush over the worktop with additional sliders on the base.
- Next door opens 40 cm towards the wall with UTRUSTA hinge 153 °
inside a heavy-duty pull-out – not Ikea, as there is nothing suitable – with a fixed base
on which the coffee machine fits and I can pull it out at eye level.
- Above that still a spacer strip, possibly also between the 40 cm doors.
- Above that a 60 cm compartment for rarely used items.
Under the window I have only about 83 cm window sill bottom height.
Since there is a door on the left, I only have 57 cm rough construction dimension. The old frame of the normal door will be removed.
We are installing a sliding door. Inside the passage will be plastered generously so that I can gain a few cm depth on the window side.
There I want to start from the right with a spacer strip – because of the distance to the left side for opening the sliders. Then follow 2x 80x60 cm base cabinet carcasses. In the left corner there are about 17 cm of space for a spacer strip.
We want to shorten the carcasses by 10 cm in height and, if possible, also in depth.
The worktop will be shortened in depth. (Therefore 10 cm empty on the picture)
At the corner door worktop, the end of the sliding door will be built into the worktop.
So I have as little overhang as possible into the door opening there.
I want to install drawers in the carcasses.
Ikea has Maximera drawers in 37 cm, 45 cm and 60 cm depth. I would like the 60 cm deep ones.
My question now is
Are these drawers really 60 cm deep in depth, i.e., the rail length – so that carcass shortening is not possible? Is there maybe 1–2 cm play at the back?
After all, the interior fittings like the knife compartment are only 50 cm deep.
I do not want to give up over 20 cm of storage depth over the entire width under the window because of 1–2 cm.
I do not want a stepped surface; I have had that so far and can’t stand it anymore.
Or would the Förvara drawers be an easier solution, which are specified with 52 cm depth?
Due to the 70 cm height, I would install 40 cm, 20 cm and 10 cm drawers.
With the Förvora, I would alternatively take 3x 20 cm and 1x 10 cm.
One last quick look at the dishwasher island.
The partition wall hides the pull doors. In the middle remains space to get the water to the desired place.
The island will be 80 cm deep. Behind the normal cabinets, narrow side ones will be installed still – left 20x60 cm and right 20x40 cm shortened.
Maybe someone has an idea for me.
Bye Sabine