Access to the construction trailer via the neighbor's path - gate too narrow!

  • Erstellt am 2018-06-13 09:33:23

Otus11

2018-06-15 09:14:59
  • #1
Illusionless should take a look at the file at the land register office, personally or online...

The land register excerpt contains only a brief formalized reference to further contractual agreements filed at the land register office. Only after knowing these can the scope of the easement be determined.

Quick wiki on the easement:

"In practice, the easement is mainly used for the individual arrangement of legal relationships between neighbors, to regulate the usability of a rear property in particular through rights of way, vehicular access, or utility rights (for water, sewage, electricity, etc.). A mere contractual agreement between the parties is usually not sufficient here because the entitled party could not enforce it against the acquirer of the encumbered property.
In return for the encumbrance that the neighbor must tolerate, he can demand that the beneficiary compensate him accordingly, for example by contributing to the maintenance costs of the access road and paying him a usage compensation. In a contract, both parties agree on which rights the beneficiary is entitled to and how much he has to pay for them. The amount of the costs in practice depends on the frequency of use, i.e., whether the right of way is used only privately, whether the beneficiary conducts his professional activities there, for example in a doctor's office or tax consultancy, or if it is, for instance, only a rarely used holiday home, a hunting lodge, or the like."

Exercise:

"The right can only be exercised as agreed and entered in the land register. The type and extent are fixed and can only be expanded through a new agreement and registration. Changing the agreed use without agreement is only possible if, due to the passage of time, the technical and economic conditions have changed. However, this must not have been foreseeable at the time of the establishment of the easement, and the use of the servient property must remain similar in its nature.
Example: If the owner of the servient property has a right of way only for walking, he may not drive over it. Parking is not allowed on a right of way for walking and driving. Laying pipes in a right of way is only possible if a utility right is also registered. A utility right for laying clay pipes may today be exercised by laying plastic pipes."
 

Steven

2018-06-15 09:18:16
  • #2
Hello illusionslos

the judgment states: "... the use of the dominant property with a single-family house is decisive." I would interpret this to mean that vehicles can drive into a single-family house, but if the owner of the single-family house comes up with the idea of starting a company that requires a low-loader, this use is no longer covered. Nothing is said about the construction of the house. This is an omission that may not have been considered carefully, or it was written this way because that was the agreement. The history of the easement would have to be checked. If it is still traceable. Try to come to an agreement.

Steven
 

nordanney

2018-06-15 09:23:03
  • #3
I have to agree with Steven. You can access your house via a 3.5m wide path. The type and manner of use of the path for a single-family house is usually determined by access with your car. 3.5m is the usual path width (which is more than sufficiently wide). If you have a crane that is 4m wide (what kind of crane would that be?), then you are simply out of luck. However, 3.5m is sufficient for all construction vehicles. A normal highway lane, for example, is 3.75m wide—just for comparison.
 

illusionslos

2018-06-15 09:49:04
  • #4
Ok, I think we are talking past each other here. The path is not the problem, it is wide enough at 3.5m. I completely agree with you on that. The problem is the driveway. The "long" vehicles cannot make the turn when they want to enter the path. The driveway is basically at a right angle to the street.

I have attached a great drawing for you.

There you can see how the driveway is built. The green part is the permanently welded wing.
 

Steven

2018-06-15 09:56:38
  • #5
Hello Illusionist

that's exactly how I imagined it.
You will hardly succeed in suing away those permanently welded wings. and if at all, then only after years.
It all comes down to the monetary aspect. Have you tried that yet? Best during a meal. Be generous there. That loosens the atmosphere.

Steven
 

Zaba12

2018-06-15 10:01:56
  • #6

Then the implementation is now your problem. If the path is 3.5m wide, that's it. You can only "buy" the owner or use smaller construction vehicles.

Where is your problem now with handing 500€ to the neighbor? Compared to all other misplanning, delays, and compromises that will cost money, that is peanuts.
 

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