802k€ for house including additional purchase costs with 600k€ loan - Financeable?

  • Erstellt am 2021-02-06 15:17:32

ypg

2021-02-07 09:48:02
  • #1

Exactly... so what... this reveals a certain attitude towards life: why should I care if someone gives? I take, and gladly so.
The value of money eventually becomes unrecognizable when it regularly flows from a cornucopia. (Play money for the stock market)

One should be able to count a one-time injection as an interest-free loan in the financing, but the calculation should be such that you earn and pay off your own house, not someone else.
The satisfaction is completely different when it’s yourself, rather than someone else repeatedly chipping in. For me, that would be an important point: that I can provide myself with a good life.
 

hausnrplus25

2021-02-07 09:49:27
  • #2
Two more small questions:

"Of 210,000€, about 30,000€ are kept as an "emergency fund" in the savings account, the rest is invested."

So you want to first withdraw the 70k of your own equity from the investments? I would really be interested to know how the bank feels about that. Please report back. I would think you have to withdraw it first, right?!

And would you like to say something about the property again? ONE semi-detached HOUSE, but then with a condominium to rent out inside? How many m2 do you have then? And how old is the house? That should also (besides of course the location) be a decisive factor in whether the price is even a good investment.
 

K1300S

2021-02-07 10:21:22
  • #3
It wasn’t about a rate for a €600K loan but about what monthly burden would be bearable, right?
 

Andreas_Meier

2021-02-07 10:59:26
  • #4
Wow, in most cases it's just pure envy speaking - I wouldn't have thought that.



Since we have not been to the bank yet, honestly, I have no idea how that will be evaluated. If it turns out to be better to take out more, that would still be an option. In case of doubt, I can sell corresponding stocks during the discussion and the money is in the account in real time - as I said, new territory for us.

How big is the house? (living area / usable area)

    [*
      140.72 sqm
      [LIST]
      [*]of which 29.11 sqm is a granny flat with a separate entrance from outside, currently not rented out


New building, old building (year built), house type?

    [*]semi-detached house, 1983

The last semi-detached house (10 sqm smaller, otherwise comparable) went for €950,000 (the bank had it valued at €730,000). It is an absolute boom region/university town, prices will rise rather than fall.
 

tomtom79

2021-02-07 11:09:05
  • #5
To speak of envy in a construction forum where almost everyone already owns a house, mostly detached and at least 160-180m2, either shows how out of touch with reality you are or that you really cannot appreciate the value of money.
 

SaschaL

2021-02-07 11:20:00
  • #6
Phew, some people here might know something about house construction, but when it comes to finances, it obviously gets tricky here and there when I read "the gambling." Furthermore, there are comments that really don’t belong ("You can be as stingy as you want!" - "Then have fun gambling!" - "Less net income than a Daimler assembly line worker!")

Also, presumptuous advice like "get used to rounding up so you don’t forget anything" is, of course, completely out of place. The exact figures give me as an observer a good feeling: Here someone doesn’t calculate - like many others - roughly, but has an exact overview of their financial situation. That is commendable. Such people are rather unlikely to forget something and especially unlikely to not round up the total sum in their head. By the way, you can of course include invested money as equity without liquidating your portfolio - just with a significantly reduced loan value.

Let’s summarize the situation:

Total volume: 800k

Equity:
210k available
130k from the parents
25k comes from the car
===============
365k equity



I would reduce all balances by 600 euros because I wouldn’t count on the portfolio’s return as fixed. That will work in the long term, but to regard it as fixed monthly income seems at least daring. When it drops by 30% once—and it will—it doesn’t feel good. And then you definitely need "balls" to sit it out - that won’t get easier if the house is pressuring you from behind ;) Better see this money as a buffer.

Then the balance, after no longer needed rent, goes down to about 2,000 euros.

With a 600k loan and 1% interest + 2.5% repayment, we are at a rate of 1,750 euros.

So in this situation, I would want to adjust the equity: If you include the parents’ 130k and the full portfolio (including the car and 60% loan-to-value on the portfolio I would assume) you end up with 280k equity - ergo 520k loan and a rate of 1,500 euros. The advantage is that the money in the portfolio can continue to grow.

Alternatively: liquidate the portfolio, take 180k from it + 25k car + 130k parents = 335k equity, resulting in a 465k loan = rate of 1,350 euros.

Risks seem manageable to me up to this point, especially since solvent parents are in the background if necessary.

Personally, however, I don’t know if someone whose hobby is "growing money" should do it this way :) You are in a comfortable situation, and all the money you put into your own house could be better grown elsewhere. So if buying a house is an investment for you, I would reconsider it - if it is a lifestyle decision, then "Go for it!"
 

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