802k€ for house including additional purchase costs with 600k€ loan - Financeable?

  • Erstellt am 2021-02-06 15:17:32

exto1791

2021-02-08 06:45:42
  • #1


@TE: first of all: is completely right – the financing threads here in the forum are a total disaster :D

Don’t let it bother you and just filter out the comments/info that are necessary, important, and useful for you – ignore everything else :)

We finance 50k less, but have 1,000€ more monthly income, yet significantly less equity and reserves in the background than you.

You will notice at your bank appointments how much you actually have to pay monthly with a principal of 600k to repay the loan on time.

With 1-2 children and your income situation, I actually find 600k somewhat difficult. If you want to repay over 30-35 years, you would have to pay around 1,900€ monthly, which is definitely not little on a 4,800€ income.
Of course, you have the security of your parents in the background and some equity in the stock market, which I assume you can access whenever it gets difficult? Depending on where you invested though, maybe not? This should definitely be considered.

With collateral in the background like inheritance/parental contributions etc., I would always be careful and see it more as a "bonus". What if you fall out? If you get divorced, etc.? In my opinion, you should be able to manage the financing independently with the 4,800€.

But again, it depends on the private circumstances... It’s just not possible to generalize!

If you want to keep your invested capital working and don’t want to use the emergency funds or your parents’ money for now, and thus want to repay with 4,800€ over the next years with children, I see 500k rather as a realistic loan amount... This way you can certainly reach about 1,500€ repayment, which in my opinion is quite realistic given your income situation – especially as Swabians! xD

Your situation is definitely not life-threatening or irresponsible – quite the opposite... You are very liquid, seem to have 2 solid jobs (maybe even more security through public service or similar??), and you also have parents or prospects of inheritance in the background.

For my part, I simply think you have to be careful that you can maintain your standard of living through the financing (especially when children come). But you do this ultimately with the 4,800€ income and not with the parents’ money. Therefore, your repayment rate should be in a healthy proportion to your income – which in my opinion will be difficult at 600k.

PS: These statements about "a Daimler assembly line worker earns more than you" are just disgustingly stupid and so dumb that I have nothing left to say about it...
Now I’m curious whether that assembly line worker also first enjoys a leisurely coffee, writes this text in a house-building forum, then reads a newspaper on his comfy office chair and leaves work promptly at 4:30 pm every day xD – let’s hope that assembly line worker shows up punctually for his psychiatrist appointment tonight, since the long-term damage caused by banging on door sealing rubber is still unpredictable...
 

apokolok

2021-02-08 11:07:03
  • #2
Interesting, but unnecessary discussion. With a monthly income of €4800, one cannot finance €600k. Not at any bank, guaranteed.
 

exto1791

2021-02-08 11:12:37
  • #3


Sorry, but that's nonsense :D The difference between can/want/should/must is quite a big one :D In this situation, the OP will get the loan from pretty much any bank, guaranteed :)
 

Tassimat

2021-02-08 11:26:56
  • #4
I agree, 200k equity opens doors everywhere. Provided the bank values the property as high as the purchase price. In general, I see local branch banks leading with such structures.

How common is it actually to pledge a share portfolio? Would that be possible and sensible to reduce the interest rate?

Or even desirable given the restrictions that pledging entails, ?
 

Smeagol

2021-02-08 11:27:31
  • #5
I would also sign off on that working out. Especially with all the collateral in the background. The bank has a solid loan-to-value ratio as a positive asset. It is also evident that the family has proven their frugal savings over the past years.

I would do it! I don’t get the impression that the market will get cheaper to the point that the little house will be cheaper to finance in 2-3 years.

PS: Yes, I also saw Andreas Beck, who calculated based on the age structure that in 10 years there will be a declining demand from the generation currently living in their empty, childless single-family houses. But he himself also said that there are certainly question marks as to whether this will really happen!
 

tomtom79

2021-02-08 11:36:39
  • #6

Are you also such an underpaid coffee drinker? Or why do you react like this? If you live here in the Stuttgart area, you definitely know what is meant by that. And yes, I would never work on the line in my life.

PS. Thanks for nicely wrapping the numbers of his financing.
 

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