Which type of camera for the house entrance area?

  • Erstellt am 2020-05-21 14:29:16

rick2018

2020-05-23 20:39:24
  • #1
who planned the camera positions? There are also a few things to consider here. What kind of cameras do you want to use? It also depends on the positions... How big is your budget and what do you want to achieve or do with the cameras? For end users, an NVR with a separate network makes the most sense. Since most of the terms are unfamiliar to you, I assume you don’t know how to secure, separate a network, work with certificates, etc. For example, HIKVision DS-7608NI-I2/8P exists but also from other manufacturers like AXIS, etc. The Synology solution is much more flexible, especially since you can also use the NAS for many other things. Either way, you also need a UPS so that the cameras keep running during a power outage.
 

Notstrom

2020-05-24 00:11:31
  • #2
The positions were planned by the electrician, see attachment. What do you mean by what kind of cameras? I have zero knowledge about that. It's the same with the budget. What kind of budget do you need for a video surveillance system? We want the cameras for security reasons, recently there have been many vandalism incidents here in the village, our cars have also been targeted several times (front windshield smashed).

We initially wanted the Bosch Smart Eyes, but Elibhat strongly advised against it as it is WLAN-based, what he offered was too much for the budget (about €1,000 per camera).
 

rick2018

2020-05-24 06:11:50
  • #3
Your electrician is right if he advised against WLAN cameras. So you want to monitor your driveway and around the house. Without more specific information, no recommendation regarding cameras can be given. Cameras come in a wide variety of types (resolution, day/night vision, horizontal and vertical viewing angle, pan/tilt, zoom, ... If he offered you cameras for €1,000 each, that was indeed top class (Mobotix, Axis...) or he is charging a lot.

"A one-time video surveillance" is not possible as it depends on the circumstances and how many cameras should be used. I suspect you will find what you are looking for in the €200-300 price range. Unfortunately, I can only provide information about Axis and Mobotix. User can certainly help with alternatives. Then you will also need a device for recording. Motion detection runs either in the camera or sometimes on the recording device. With €1,500 - 2,000 you can achieve quite a bit.

The cameras receive power via the LAN cable (PoE). For this you need a switch that supports PoE, PoE injectors, or a recording device that functions as a PoE switch. Only large camera systems in the absolute high-end range require a separate power connection. Here we are in the four- to five-digit range. Applications are large areas, cities, airports, industrial facilities, high-security applications... You don’t need any of that.

Honestly, I have a bit of "gut feeling" concerns regarding the adjustment of the cameras and recording, as well as the network.

Do you have a LAN connection inside the house near the area to be monitored? Even though it actually goes against all "guidelines" (WLAN, cloud...), take a look at Arlo. It runs via its own WiFi. You could connect them directly to power. It uploads to the Arlo cloud, and the videos are analyzed. The detection is very good (people, animals, cars, packages, motion). Such few false alarms and good detection is otherwise very hard to achieve. Arlo works only if the hub is close to the area to be monitored. If your cameras are positioned around the house, you can forget it right away. Or you need several hubs. But then you quickly reach price regions where it no longer makes sense.

You are required to indicate the surveillance via a sign, and you may only monitor your own property. No public spaces and no neighboring properties. But who sues over small things...

If you provide more information, we will certainly find a solution.
 

Notstrom

2020-05-24 06:58:45
  • #4

Hi, yes so what the electrician usually installs is Indexa and Mobotix.

As for the type of camera, I am relatively inexperienced: What do people install in a single-family house?

I summarize:

    [*]Switch with POE: planned -> especially also for the access points in the house => then I can save myself the 230V sockets in the intended locations, also good
    [*]Why do you have concerns or in what way?
    [*]We have an access point on each floor fairly central
    [*]Why Arlo now and wireless? Then I could just go with Bosch and also save a few outdoor lights
 

rick2018

2020-05-24 07:08:33
  • #5
"Stomach ache" because you are apparently quite inexperienced. The external network should be separated and the clients authenticated using certificates. With motion detection, you need to fine-tune properly, otherwise you will constantly have false alarms. Hence the "tip" with the Arlos. Detection (not motion but humans, animals...) can only be achieved with very high-quality systems. The Bosch ones are not at the level of detection. In single-family homes, cameras with fixed focal length without zoom, etc. are mostly used. Which exactly is sensible depends on the position and application. APs should not be placed centrally but where the most speed is needed and most clients are (living room, office...).
 

Notstrom

2020-05-24 07:19:47
  • #6
Well, I mean that I am inexperienced in electrical work has been impressively demonstrated in the KNX area, but I don’t find that bad either, you can’t know everything after all. Joking aside: I just want good camera surveillance without a lot of "maintenance" effort. Preferably something plug & play, but I have also already understood that there is no way around WLAN and that would be counterproductive to the actual requirements.
 

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