The living space is approximately 8 m² smaller in the application drawings compared to the draft (GU).

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MachsSelbst

2025-04-17 20:05:38
  • #1
As already said, these would be minor things, okay.
The bricklayer sometimes throws the stones 2cm off, you can forget something occasionally, people can get sick, quit, there can also be an accident, unfortunately sometimes with a serious outcome. If communicated honestly, everyone understands that, even if no customer waives contractual penalties for it.
That is entrepreneurial risk.

But this is something completely different? You want thicker walls and the contractor says "Well, I’ll just make the rooms smaller for you, that’s easier for me. Of course it costs extra."

That’s not a mistake because nobody knew better or wasn’t paying attention. It doesn’t happen because 2 employees are sick and the cleaning lady takes over the planning.

You don’t even want to know how it will be with real problems.
 

Arauki11

2025-04-17 20:13:43
  • #2

Assuming it is exactly like that. What exactly should the OP do now, since it is already proven that the general contractor treated him deliberately and fraudulently?
I've asked it a dozen times already. What now, and very concretely? He already knows for himself that he was fooled, so why is he still there?
Don’t just complain – please name a concrete, actionable, and certainly completely successful alternative path for the OP.
I’m curious. I have no solution for him.
 

11ant

2025-04-17 20:20:55
  • #3
No, it is much better: although against better judgment of the previous readings, the OP went to a general contractor, and he got a good one who fulfills his expressed wishes (and will probably also fulfill the previously unspoken "please place the multiple thickness to the outside"). Excellent!
 

ITSM2025

2025-04-17 20:25:38
  • #4


Thank you for your contribution.

Unfortunately, you misunderstood me. The order before contract signing was a KfW 40 single-family house made of 17.5 cm sand-lime brick + insulation (I did not specify any dimensional requirements here) + 11.5 cm clinker brick. I did not know how thick the insulation had to be to achieve KfW 40. I left that to the general contractor. Subsequently, he created the colorful drawings you have. I trusted that these drawings already corresponded to the wall construction according to KfW 40 requirements and that we could be happy with the indicated areas. I never wrote that the entire wall construction’s width should fully correspond to caliber 425. After signing, the GU sent me the info including building permit drawings that previously a 425-caliber wall structure was calculated, which unfortunately has now been widened by 6.5 cm:

"According to the requirements for KfW40 and the (preliminary) specifications from our structural engineer, we have increased the exterior walls from originally 42.5 cm to now 49 cm, furthermore, interior walls on the ground floor have been planned with b = 17.5 cm based on statics, which results in a slight loss of actual living space, as well as small shifts of interior walls following the static requirements. This is, however, strictly necessary."
 

ITSM2025

2025-04-17 20:36:40
  • #5


How I should proceed now I have already written. Unfortunately, I do not know how else to help myself, I have to say that honestly. And yes, of course I will first approach the matter objectively and simply ask that the walls be shifted outward so that the contractually owed room areas at least more or less correspond again. Incidentally, I just recalculated again, now finally free and with a somewhat clearer head.

The originally planned living area was 164.84 m² according to DIN.

The new living area is 155.27 m² according to DIN.

The difference is now a loss of 9.57 m².
 

ITSM2025

2025-04-17 20:38:48
  • #6
Oh, I did not know that the width had previously been calculated as 425.
 

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