The living space is approximately 8 m² smaller in the application drawings compared to the draft (GU).

  • Erstellt am 2025-04-16 11:23:10

MachsSelbst

2025-04-17 14:21:58
  • #1
Are there numbers or m² for the rooms on the sketch? If yes, then you bought xx square meters of living space and not xx-6% for the same price plus a surcharge for thicker walls. Period.
 

wiltshire

2025-04-17 14:26:03
  • #2

I finally understood that the drawing was made by you and not by the construction partner – my mistake, it was already written before and I overlooked it. Thank you for writing again.

Therefore, the drawing obviously has no legal effect. The construction partner is also not responsible for the dimensions you entered. He is not obliged to correct them either, although it would have been attentive and good if he had pointed it out to you. I would address this irritation with the construction partner as well as the associated surprise that the living area becomes significantly smaller due to the different wall thicknesses. Emphasize that you are a layperson and that it was not recognizable or technically plausible for you, since the wall thickness could also have led to a larger exterior volume. If it is a good conversation, you will probably receive some accommodation, possibly in another area. There is nothing concrete to gain except restoring a good and fruitful relationship (very valuable).

If you approach your construction partner with demands based on your own drawing, you will at best be smiled at kindly. In the worst case, you will get the label "troublemaker" and will be treated accordingly from then on.
 

Arauki11

2025-04-17 14:31:40
  • #3
What is your goal? To find someone in the forum who agrees with you? Maybe you are right and the general contractor (GU) is a trickster; and then...? Then be happy that you recognized it already and end the thing with him immediately? Many only realize it halfway through or way too late, you are at an advantage! It’s easy to encourage you to keep fighting when one doesn’t have to bear the consequences. Being right and getting your way.....

Now the knives are being sharpened. What use is that to you? As I read this gradually, I wonder why you are still there. Tell me, why haven’t you switched long ago? What I also wonder about regarding this statement:

You wonder whether to open a can of worms and repeatedly write that you are clearly right here and suspect malicious intent behind the GU’s actions. Maybe you should also (not only) question your own decision to build a floor plan of completely different people (you are not a copy of your parents) even “EXACTLY” (quote) the same. That is already contradicted by this statement of yours:

So what now? It’s your business but it also shows how quickly communication can sound completely different in a few posts and exactly in this gray area a problematic communication between the GU and you might have occurred. I do criticize the GU and craftsmen quite clearly sometimes, also based on my own experiences, but I always look for my share in it as well. I really don’t know anyone who would build their own house a second time “exactly” (quote), because everyone finds something about their own build or changes ideas and needs. Why do you assume that your parents found the philosopher’s stone back then with their old plan, which you can now build exactly many years later, which strikes me as a bit odd. But – it’s okay to be odd, and maybe the GU is odd too, who knows, and then boom. I don’t like being treated badly either, but then I change horses, even if it costs money, because my well-being is too important to me for that. Where is the critical consideration of your parents’ planning, who built that on a different plot and under different circumstances back then? Surely something is not quite optimal there as well, which you can see quite quickly looking at the plan, but apparently that is almost sacred to you and considered perfect. Of course, you don’t have to discuss it, but in my opinion, it would be just as necessary there as with the GU, because I also see a lot of money wasted due to planning weaknesses in your plan.

I don’t see that as “stuff” but as one of the most important components of a new build. What I find lacking in the whole project is rather the idea behind it: what is my goal with the house, how do I want to live, instead of just being annoyed about the 8 sqm while living in a copy of your parents’ house. Understandably, you miss a few square meters, that can be clarified in a direct conversation, but look at your bathroom or the children’s rooms where over many years some square meters have been wasted without any added value by you or your parents. A bathroom, in particular, usually looks bad if it’s too big, as here; by contrast, the staircase feels rather cramped right up to the top like one in a dwarfs’ house. Why don’t you question such things as critically? Also check the measurements of your furniture and thus the functionality of your ground floor rooms with windows/doors etc. instead of just getting hung up on one thing here alone.

Accusing a lack of motivation from a distance is a blatant assumption. It could be laziness, greed for money, or something explainable. We don’t know that, but hopefully find out after a conversation with the GU. But if it starts with a shouted accusation of laziness, I have an idea of the result. Recommending a sledgehammer method to others may be funny, but it helps the affected party little or rather harms them, or will you help them if your method fails? Do you have a solution for him or a better GU? Then come on, share it.
 

11ant

2025-04-17 14:37:04
  • #4
As mentioned, it is just a three-liner from the original poster to his general contractor, stating that he wants the wall thickness increase to be placed on the outside, and it was certainly no malice on the part of the general contractor to have applied the extra thickness in the classic manner on the inside. Three lines of communication, zero blame necessary; and afterward, the general contractor only has to make a handful of mouse clicks to "effortlessly" give the original poster the new price. After the goodwill on the transverse gable, I wouldn’t really be surprised if he also does this at no additional cost.
 

ITSM2025

2025-04-17 15:36:25
  • #5
I will report next week on what has become of my request for adjustment to the room areas from the sketch.

My plan now is to first request exactly that. If this only happens through massive cost increases, I ask for adjusted drawings, for the building application, based on the room areas previously specified in the sketch and decisive for my contract signing. I would then pay for this but otherwise terminate the contract due to deception. If termination is only possible by claiming damages, unfortunately, this will take the legal route.

My wife and I have now saved for this project for about 15 years and at the very beginning, one simply has to say it, we will not be fooled. The inward widening should have been agreed upon in advance.

That is my opinion and my plan. As I said, I will report. Happy Easter.
 

ITSM2025

2025-04-17 15:38:49
  • #6


Yes, only the external building dimensions and the room areas gross as well as net in the attic are present in the sketch. They did not want to give me a more detailed drawing.
 

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