Suggestions and ideas regarding our floor plans are welcome

This is our initial draft hand-drawn by the architect. Old school, no CAD. Everything we didn’t like we had changed. That means pantry door, guest WC, guest room, no light well, etc. It is 138 sqm plus basement, with hillside surcharge and outdoor area, bare bones so only group 300, 400 & 500 about 370k€. So without land, preparation and development, equipment including sanitary, incidental construction costs according to DIN276). So quite a lot is still missing. Well estimated, another 50-60k€ will be added to the 370k€.

I also think that the OP first needs to clarify the budget. It is not surprising that the architects have little desire to plan castles in the air and waste their time on them. For 380k, I also don't see a basement - especially not with a hillside location and possibly partially finished - absurd.

Since the street doesn't even lead up to the property here, just the access path will probably cost a pretty penny. A double garage is also not a bargain.

For 380, I see at most a 150m² house on a slab with a double carport, embankment, and you can be glad if the paths and terrace are already included.

I set certain requirements and then we get floor plans that do not match our requirements.

Now it has turned out that your requirements are very difficult to reconcile with the existing plot...

Basement, floors: basement, two full floors
Number of people, age: 3 (35, 25, soon to be born)
Space requirements on the ground floor, upper floor: from 70m²
Office: family use --> guest room double bed and wardrobe (precaution for health reasons)

... these requirements already do not fit the budget.

- Front door with side panel
- Staircase not directly at the door
- Shower bathroom on the ground floor
- Cloakroom (to avoid countless shoes and jackets in the hallway)
- no "hallway corridor" (we currently have that in the apartment... dark and very tight for two people), can appear open
- Dressing room on the upper floor
- Parents' bedroom not next to children's room
- Wife’s kitchen wish: U-shape, front part as counter
- Pantry not necessary
- small storage room on the ground floor would be good
- entrance via garage would be good
- staircase style free
- garage should be on the N/E side

That should all be possible. Also with a relatively simple floor plan.
However, one should free oneself from some things. For example, a second entrance via the garage is always a cost and space eater, as is the double garage.

Regarding the floor plans:
Ground floor from the architect: he put the utility room upstairs despite the information about the basement; kitchen in the wrong place according to orientation; cloakroom forgotten.

There are no wrong places. If you don’t like something in an architect’s design, you talk to him. He will then change it. However, you should also be willing to compromise and open to other locations, which as a layperson you might idealize one-sidedly or see only as the sole option. There are always more options which do not have to be worse but may be better due to the building site, terrain or statics.

I think the kitchen should be on the sunny side in the middle of the house and the living/dining room then to the left,... So shaped like an L... Then you would make full use of the sun, right? With a large window front on the northern corner of the house then...

You will also have sun in the east or west, just at different times. In summer, for example, you have no sun in the house on the south side because it is very high up.
On the terrace, one cannot stand the midday sun in the south.

I see the slope as a problem for your ideas: terrace in the south with a slope there does not work. Embankments are expensive (I’m repeating myself and others).

However, I can imagine two levels on the plot, one of them in the basement with a terrace in the southwest. Above that the sleeping level as the entrance level. From the driveway it then looks like a bungalow.
Instead of a double garage, a garage with a carport as a connection to the house or a double carport.

Edit: but I could also be wrong regarding the slope, then it will be a normal two-story house with some fill for the terrace.

To round it off:
Roughly sketched... I also come to a floor area of about 125sqm... a bit less upstairs as a rectangle. That way we get a living area of 200 sqm. Without a basement, but with a freezer on the ground floor, utility room on the upper floor. 2000€ x 200sqm
400,000€ or 360,000-420,000
plus additional construction costs
plus outdoor facilities
plus garage/carport
plus painter and flooring

The sketch

The upper floor is also approximately right: 2 children's rooms, bedroom with dressing room, utility room and bathroom.

And so I assume that you have consciously received some examples that you do not like because they do not want the contract.

But driving backwards to the junction is also dumb :-(
I see the planner still has to tinker so that the garage / driveway situation works for both cars.

Please take a look at the attachment... access is no problem.

Yes, I want to know what rooms you want to accommodate upstairs besides the standard 2 children's rooms... room program... that comes first... What you imagine with your basement city villa, you don't actually want.
Make a written room program for basement, ground floor and upper floor and develop your house accordingly.
Regarding the costs: filling also means retaining... allowed? Intended?

Maybe 2 storeys are enough... could be 180-200 sqm

I can gladly summarize in the next post (for clarity) what we want on the floors.

In advance: I also find the architect’s design best, if I had to choose.

I believe the architect did not place the technology there without ulterior motives, because at the end of the budget the house will run out on you.

I wanted 2 full storeys, an (unfinished, possibly prepared) attic, a basement, the whole on about 100 sqm footprint (160 sqm + 80 sqm basement), a (solid?) double garage and your budget is 350,000 EUR? I don’t really see that, especially not if incidental building costs are also included. (350 - 50 = 300 => 1250 Euros/sqm) ... nada... and in BW even less.

I want to predict and guess:

a) the basement dies.
b) The garage will be a precast concrete garage or a carport.

Keep in mind that a house without a basement especially needs storage space!!! Garage +1m and utility room not under 10 or 12 sqm. Attic accessible with space-saving staircase (no folding stairs!) and inside the insulated envelope!!!

If some money still turns up somewhere... see attachment. (Attention, staircase moved, so the upper floor plan dies! Everything only makes sense as a whole anyway. A ground floor without upper floor is not a ground floor.

No attic.... You won’t want to go up there later. That’s why it will be a roof with about 25° pitch.
I will summarize the rest in the next post.

That

@tox your "drawn" floor plan looks quite similar to ours except we made the guest room an additional wardrobe.

I also see the basement dropping out due to the budget.

Since the street doesn’t even reach here, a nice chunk will roll down the drain just for the access path. Double garage is no bargain either.

For 380 I see here max 150 sqm house on slab with double carport, embankment and you can be glad if paths and terrace are already included.

I have now attached another picture showing the already finished access.

Thank you for the good answers...

I'll summarize a bit.

A base slab with a slope is very expensive,... "you could also build a basement for a few euros more" (last statement from the architect). He drew the cold storage room on the ground floor because he probably forgot the basement.

Furthermore, the mentioned budget refers exclusively to the house...
Furnishing and garden are on a different budget.

The garage is to come later.... Only the base slab of the garage should be poured at the same time.

There will also be own work. For example, we will do 100% of the electrical work ourselves (yes, master craftsman available for approval). Interior plaster will also be done by ourselves, as well as the textured plaster... Furthermore, I get the materials for the own work cheaper through a company card.

There doesn’t have to be access from the garage into the ground floor,... that was just an idea.
If the entrance to the ground floor is on the right, the garage is located just behind it...

There are no problems or regulations from the municipality regarding the fill. I have already checked.

Regarding the slope, I have attached two photos for you – the 2m single-family house difference refers to the difference from one property to the other... Our neighbor probably got most of the 2m.
It’s not that wild for us. But a base slab here also costs a good 25k€... without getting anything for it...

We are currently considering to let the living area on the ground floor die out......

I thought the layout of the rooms would be as follows:
Basement: hobby room, technical/laundry, storage room
Ground floor: living/dining room, shower bath, kitchen, cloakroom, guest room, open hallway...
Upper floor: 2 kids’ rooms, bathroom, bedroom, dressing room (no passage from bedroom through dressing room required to bathroom)
Attic should not be planned.

Why I am thinking about the basement... Because the base slab seems very tricky because of the slope.
So far I was told,... "calculate with 25k€ and maybe a bit more."

I will print out the floor plans you posted here for me and show them to my lady...

THANK YOU ALL!!!!