Renovation of old buildings, what awaits us

  • Erstellt am 2016-08-17 11:28:02

jan2110

2016-08-23 10:39:33
  • #1
Hello everyone,

So, the attic ceiling is to be insulated and the insulation between the rafters needs to be renewed, or rather, there is no proper insulation present. I have now also gathered some information from acquaintances who have done it themselves. It’s not rocket science, but you should have some knowledge about it.

Regarding the electrical system, there are still 2-core cable lines installed without conduit. Unfortunately, these have to be completely replaced. All rooms should also be protected by RCDs. Additionally, we need a few more power outlets in the rooms and, of course, the home network. I will probably handle chasing and laying the cables myself; everything else will be done by an electrician master who will also approve everything.

New windows are also coming: We would like roller shutters and fly screens (fly screens primarily for 2 house cats so they can stay in the room while airing). However, the new windows will remain double-glazed. If we install new modern triple-glazed windows now, according to the energy consultant, we would also have to insulate the facade anew, otherwise the condensation would not form on the windows but on the wall, and we would get a mold problem (in the worst case).

Two acquaintances swore by windows from Poland (cheap, good quality, good installation). They had windows from Poland installed themselves and are satisfied with them. I am still a bit skeptical regarding quality and warranty later on.

Gradually, we will then take on the basement.

Such an old building naturally has its appeal in terms of price. It has exactly the room layout like our (previously planned) new build. We practically get the shell and can renovate it cheaply according to our ideas.

Of course, it’s also an advantage that we already have a garden, garage, shed, driveway.

Of course, we still have some construction sites open, which need to be worked on step by step, and you never know what problems an old building will cause in 10 years.

We are also aware that we cannot build a passive house out of the house (at least not with little effort), but we can affordably fulfill our dream.
 

jan2110

2016-08-23 10:46:49
  • #2
A question right away:

How did you start with the renovation?

I am currently making a schedule in my head.

1. Remove all old stuff that needs to go (wallpapers, carpets, old bathroom, old plaster,)
2. New electrical work, remove old wiring, install new wiring (the biggest effort in my opinion)
3. New roof insulation and attic insulation (you have to tear down 4 drywall walls to get to the old insulation)
4. Bathroom including wall breakthrough
5. Guest WC
6. Kitchen
7. Windows
.
.
.
.

The "small things" like sanding and painting solid staircases and solid door frames, sanding wooden floorboards and checking if the color tone matches the furniture, installing new doors are done "on the side"

I just realized that our planned period of 3 months notice period and 1 month of double costs doesn't quite add up.

How would you plan and in what kind of timeframe?
 

DG

2016-08-23 10:56:43
  • #3
If the casing is double-walled, get advice regarding cavity insulation. It looks better (WDVS always looks terrible in my opinion) and can be filled in various ways.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe
 

jan2110

2016-08-23 11:09:22
  • #4
Yes, it is built with a double shell. We were told that this type of insulation is more cost-effective, faster, and nicer. The insulation material would then have to be made of natural material.

I watched a report today that the woodpecker likes to build its cavities in [WDVS] Fits well with the topic
 

nightdancer

2016-08-23 11:39:46
  • #5


Nonsense, you don't need an ETICS with either double- or triple-glazed windows. Both types are installed airtight nowadays, which leads to mold if there is insufficient ventilation. It doesn't matter how insulating the windows are. I would kick the energy consultant out.
 

nightdancer

2016-08-23 11:40:55
  • #6


It depends again on what you mean by complete renovation..... 1000 euros/sqm is nothing if you really have to do everything.
 

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