Question about the magical 1,500€ per sqm

Hello,

If we want to observe the flat rates precisely in the microscopic range, we can observe them at Berlin Airport. These were planned here out of touch with reality. And the comparison is not even exaggerated. In comparison, construction fund client (limited), construction fund state (not always limited).

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Rhenish greetings

Hello,


Oops - I really have no idea what you're talking about or what you're getting at

Rhenish greetings

When the architect sets his flat rates, in reality later everything looks different. I just wanted to say that it is always better if the builder obtains written offers. Because only that really helps him further.

Regards Waldemar

When the architect applies his flat rates, everything later looks different in reality. I just wanted to say that it is always better if the client obtains written quotes. Because only that really helps him.

Regards Waldemar

Every client who has done this before will soon notice the following: Some craftsmen will try to take advantage of them. They offer the trades and either leave out important parts from the offer or offer per ton and cubic meter. Which unfortunately no layperson can assess.
Hardly any client can calculate the difference between ton and cubic meter. How should they know the factor?
An architect has to know that.

We awarded our earthworks ourselves.
5 offers between €14,000+X per ton effort, and €21,000 lump sum.
We could calculate as much as we wanted, but could not for the life of us estimate
whether the €14,000 offer was cheaper than the lump sum offer.

Shoemaker, stick to your last...

The more area, the lower the construction costs per sqm of usable area (total area) One can consider the construction costs and the construction project as follows: 1. Maximum Principle Construction Costs: Set cost framework: budget e.g. €200,000, Define quality for building and technical installations: simple standard, medium standard or higher standard (from €1000/sqm usable area Cat 2* to €2500/sqm usable area Cat 5*) Single-family house with basement or without basement including simple construction description (here, of course, the costs per usable sqm differ, since the basement increases total costs but reduces costs per sqm usable area) Determine the gross floor area using key figures from databases (completed single-family houses), or then the usable area Conclusion: With very precise planning, one can achieve the maximum quality for the fixed budget 2. Minimum Principle: Define quality for building and technical installations: simple standard, medium standard or higher standard Define areas Single-family house with basement or without basement including simple construction description (solid walls, wooden construction, etc.) With very precise planning, one should achieve the minimal construction costs for the desired quality and area. According to one of the above principles, one can plan a construction project very efficiently, so that there is enough money left for the next vacation! And it works very well if nothing is changed before the start of construction, because then the good planning is no longer useful.

Every builder who has done this before will soon notice the following: Some craftsmen will try to fool you. They offer the trades and either leave out important parts of the offer or charge per ton and cubic meter. Unfortunately, a layman cannot estimate this.
Hardly any builder can calculate the difference between a ton and a cubic meter. How should he know the factor?
An architect must know this.

We awarded our earthworks ourselves.
5 offers between €14,000+ x per ton effort, and €21,000 flat rate.
We could calculate as much as we wanted, but could by no means estimate
whether the €14,000 offer was cheaper than the flat rate offer.

Shoemaker, stick to your last...

Surely some try this trick now and then. But I also know the same from builders, who try to drive the price down at the beginning and then look for mistakes afterward. Interfaces are supposed to be created for this, so that no misunderstandings arise in advance. Certainly, if the builder has the necessary money, then he hires an architect or construction coordinator. If not, then he is forced to look for individual unit prices. And he cannot just assume that if Peter from the neighborhood got by with €1000 per square meter five years ago, then he must get by for a long time too. From my point of view, it is just naive to believe that. Because that is how shows like "Builder in Distress" or something like that originate.

We are also about to implement our construction project in Saxony/Chemnitz in 2014, as my username already says. I would like to pick up the topic "1,500 €/sqm" again. What level of equipment/standard (basic, medium, high) can one expect for that? That is certainly regionally different, right? For example, in rural areas of Saxony-Anhalt, you would definitely pay less than in Munich, wouldn’t you? And how much would that amount to (per sqm)?