Q3 plastering without painting fleece?

So we have here many square meters of ordinary painter's fleece and paint on top of it. Everything is fine, I wouldn't know what could be better about it.

Thank you for the explanation. I now understand the technical difference. How is it quality-wise? It was said here that Spachtelvlies is better, but why?

Is there actually an answer to that? We now have the first offers. Requested were filling, sanding, and painter’s fleece + painting. We have been offered Spachtelvlies.

Sure, there are fewer work steps and it is therefore cheaper. But how is the result with grazing light, etc.?

How did you decide?

Is there actually an answer to this? We now have the first offers. We requested filling, sanding, and painter's fleece + painting. We have been offered filling fleece.

How did you decide?

I'm bringing this up again because we now really have to decide on short notice. Do you have any pros/cons for filling fleece?

The main problem is the measurement in our cost planning. The painter calculated almost 20% more area than I roughly estimated beforehand. For my calculation, I added the areas in the floor plan and did not deduct any window/door openings under 2.5 sqm.

I come to just under 500 sqm but probably missed a few square meters in the stairwell. On the other hand, in all bedrooms with sloping ceilings, I did not recalculate the area according to the slope using Pythagoras but assumed the cuboid. For me, both influences should balance out so that approximately 500 sqm need to be filled, sanded, and wallpapered with painter's fleece + of course painted.

We now had a painter here who took 590 sqm measurement, which of course pushes the bill significantly higher at €30/sqm gross.

So I have the choice between:
Painter 1
Painter's fleece, several employees, good impression and recommended in acquaintances
€25/sqm net

Painter 2
Painter's fleece, several employees, from nearby and good reputation, has already done 2 houses here in the new development area
€25.5/sqm

Painter 3
Filling fleece, works alone, has already done 2 houses here in the new development area well—but only plastering and painting without fleece
€14,000 all-in offer

Painter 4
Ukrainian paid by the hour

I'm actually considering biting the bullet and taking painter 2. Painter 3 is too uncertain for us during corona times. If he gets sick or something happens, we are left with nothing as there is no substitute. Painters 1 and 2 are pretty much equal, so I’d rather take the local one. Painter 4 I am too scared of.

What could I have forgotten when calculating the surfaces? I calculated each room as a block and only deducted large windows/sliding doors. So I should actually have a clear buffer over the actual measurement, right? We reluctantly increased from an illusory €10k painting cost to €15k, and now it should be over €18k.

Just go through with it and be done? I have already spoken to the painter and kindly asked if he could find a way to get closer to €15k—let’s see what comes of it. Then I would take another close look at the measurement but otherwise, I can’t think of anything else.

All participants have solid houses, right? Are there any opinions and experiences with wooden houses? We plan to fill the GK board joints, sand, prime, and then apply fleece wallpapers as desired, partly probably still paint. :rolleyes: Let's see if it works out as planned ...

How did you decide?

I’m bringing this back up because we now actually have to decide at short notice. Do you have any pros/cons for Spachtelvlies?

The main problem is the measurement in our cost planning. The painter calculates with almost 20% more area than I had roughly estimated beforehand. For my calculation, I added the areas on the floor plan and did not subtract any window/door openings under 2.5 sqm.

I come to just under 500 sqm, but I probably omitted a few square meters in the stairwell. On the other hand, in all bedrooms with sloped ceilings, I did not calculate the area down to the slope using Pythagoras, but assumed the cuboid. For me, both influences should balance out so that approximately 500 sqm need to be filled, sanded, and wallpapered with painter’s fleece +, of course, painted.

We had a painter here who measured 590 sqm, which of course significantly increases the bill at €30/sqm gross.

So I have the choice between:
Painter 1
Painter’s fleece, several employees, good impression and recommended in the circle of acquaintances
€25/sqm net

Painter 2
Painter’s fleece, several employees, from next door and good reputation, has already done 2 houses here in the new development
€25.5/sqm

Painter 3
Spachtelvlies, works alone, has already done 2 houses here in the new development and did well - but only plastering and painting without fleece
€14,000 all-in offer

Painter 4
Ukrainian billed hourly

I’m now actually considering biting the bullet and taking Painter 2. Painter 3 feels too uncertain for us in Corona times. If he gets sick or something happens, we’re left with nothing since there’s no backup. Painters 1 and 2 don’t differ much, so I’d rather go local. Painter 4 I’m too scared of.

What could I have forgotten when calculating the surfaces? I calculated each room as a block and only subtracted large windows/sliding doors. So I should actually have a significant buffer over the actual measurement, right? We reluctantly went from an illusory €10k painting cost to €15k and now it’s supposed to be over €18k.

Just push through and be done? I already spoke kindly with the painter and asked if he could find a way to get closer to €15k - let’s see what comes of it. Then I would take a closer look at the measurement again, but otherwise I can’t think of anything else.

And which option did you choose? Is there already a result?

And which option did you decide on? Is there already a result?

We took Painter 2 from next door. So far, he is way too fast for the rest of the construction progress. Communication is very pleasant and with several employees on site. He also keeps the general contractor on their toes with things that wouldn't have to be done by the builder. Costs unfortunately about 17k.

Execution: filling, sanding, filling, sanding, painter's fleece, painting.

Nothing cheap but so far flawless work. Just how a filled wall looks.