Problems with Telekom. Crossed cable?

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-16 19:10:03

Sedax182

2020-12-17 07:51:28
  • #1

The KVZ is about 10 meters from my front door.
From your text, I understand that I should reboot the KVZ with my car at exactly 31.6 km/h.
 

hampshire

2020-12-17 08:00:30
  • #2
The specifications are always "up to". So you pay for "up to 16000kbit/s," since that is the smallest commercially defined size. You don't need to be stubborn about that. Besides, it is impractical, because otherwise you would have nothing for a few supposedly too many euros per month. Such problems are not easy to understand; the internet service, which in Germany is mostly based on old copper cable networks in the local supply area, is quite complex. Besides the technical equipment, there are a few decisive physical factors. Two of these are particularly challenging: 1.: Line length - DSL is based on an analog technology. It is susceptible to cable attenuation. Attenuation increases both with the line length and with the signal frequency. The signal frequency is directly related to the data throughput. Therefore: long line = lower data throughput. The Telekom employee's hint "cross-connection" suggests a long line. 2.: Electromagnetic radiation - When our telephone network was buried, 2 unshielded wires were enough for voice connections; it was rare to experience the phenomenon that suddenly another call was on the line, and if that happened, you had something to talk about. With the increasing signal frequency on the lines, crosstalk increased, and care was taken not to use adjacent lines for high-frequency services. Therefore, today only some of the copper wires are usable for DSL. It is quite complex to specify this in the documentation. It may therefore be that simply no other suitable line is available anymore. Take the 6000 (which can sometimes be more, sometimes less) and discuss the house connection technology with 3rd level support (politely work your way through); sometimes they have solutions. For us, it took over a year after registration, and the first 2 months after moving in, we had an internet connection via mobile communications, which was just enough for emails without images. For that, construction measures were carried out through head holes at country roads, district roads, and village streets, and now we get almost 100 Mbit/s, which is sufficient for us. That also cost 800€ - it is a mixed calculation. No commercial solution helps with a technical problem. You also don’t get more kilometers from a tank of fuel if you pay double for the gasoline.
 

11ant

2020-12-17 13:30:02
  • #3
This is really very crazy: at the TE in house no. 9 there are 6 Mbit, next door in house no. 11 there are 250, next door in house no. 7 nothing works at all and in house no. 1 there are 175. If there is supposed to be some logic in that, I am too stupid :-(

I just saw it and already replied ;-)
 

hampshire

2020-12-17 14:35:12
  • #4
The logic inherent in it stems from the reality of an outdated system that was never intended for high-bitrate data transmission. People always think "it's still working" and do not renew it completely - which, by the way, would be very expensive for network operators but economically worthwhile on a national scale. It is simply not always advantageous when infrastructure is considered from a business management perspective. We have the same misjudgment in other infrastructure areas such as health, energy, and public transport.
 

11ant

2020-12-17 15:00:13
  • #5
No, logically it would be slower DSL at one end or the other end of the street (where it is farther from the distribution cabinet or where there were already more neighbors on the way in between). I don’t see that in this case. Economically worthwhile would have been not to have created multiple network duplications during the postal reform, which is now backfiring. Unfortunately, politicians don’t understand the difference between competition and cacophony. With ONE telecom (in the form of a national and competitor-owned DBP Fernmeldedienst Private Edition), we would already have basic coverage at the level of fiber to the milking machine. That was not desired, and now we have a mess.
 

Telekom hilft

2020-12-17 16:19:57
  • #6
As information for the readers here: I spoke with on the phone and we discussed everything.



Since you mentioned these other house numbers, I took a look. Your statements are indeed correct, but all of this is explainable. However, for data protection reasons, I will not do this publicly here.

Regards, Kai M.
 

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