Preliminary planning of house and garage BEFORE land purchase

  • Erstellt am 2020-07-14 10:12:05

Alessandro

2020-07-15 08:18:39
  • #1
I see no special features except for the usual restrictions. If you like it, go for it!
 

Octrineddy

2020-07-15 10:02:56
  • #2
To me, it looks like a road parcel, which should then be publicly designated. There would be no problem with the access. (That's how I would have done it, and yes, that's my professional field )
 

gni.w777

2020-07-15 12:10:35
  • #3
Wow, first of all, thank you very much for the feedback and thank you for the work you put into this absolutely great!

Here are a few pieces of information:

After consulting with the city, it is assumed that this has some historical reasons. At least it belongs to the city and is designated as a road/traffic route. The authorities do not see any problem placing the entrance there.


That would not be a problem, as we are not planning a city villa. We would like the house with a gable roof and bay windows extending all the way up (see photo). Can someone estimate, depending on the development plan, whether this would be allowed here? For the roof, a nice ratio of roof pitch and knee wall height would be desirable so that the upper floor can be used as well as possible.




Yes, we want a basement for sauna, utility room, possibly party and guest rooms. Does residential basement in this context mean that the basement is exposed on the slope side??


Doesn’t the development plan specify the ridge direction? So far, I have assumed that is not allowed. Is there a sensible arrangement of house and (double) garage while complying with the ridge direction?


Yes, the west direction offers a beautiful view over the Weser Uplands, but rather from the upper end of the property (or from the upper floor), since the row of houses opposite somewhat obstructs the view.
 

11ant

2020-07-15 15:01:17
  • #4

No, I cannot: firstly because of the contradictions, II says roof structures are not permissible, III 2.1 says roof structures on the mountain side up to one third of the eave length; secondly because I cannot clearly assign the parcel in the development plan, but I hardly see any ridge direction specifications there – from the aforementioned restriction of valley side no and mountain side partially, one might possibly derive such a thing.
 

Escroda

2020-07-15 21:29:12
  • #5

Yes. The photo shows a cross gable that is less than half the width of the building. It would be possible on the mountain side, not on the valley side.

No problem with two permitted full floors and 6m eave height.

Yes, but in my opinion the height difference of the plot does not allow that.

Yes. Hardly recognizable, because the contour line lies exactly over the ridge line.

Agreed

Those were the stipulations of the original plan from 1978.

That was the now also obsolete stipulation of the first amendment.
Furthermore, these are excerpts from the reasoning. Legally binding are the stipulations on the development plan document of the second amendment (4_b_plan_9_11b_2ae_noerdlich_der_allenbergstrasse_2ae_planzeichnung_sp.jpg).

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Unfortunately not. The mixture of plan drawings, textual stipulations, and justifications of different versions confuses more than it helps. The first amendment is apparently fully superseded and therefore meaningless.
 

gni.w777

2020-07-16 15:50:09
  • #6

In the neighborhood, there are a few houses that also seem to have some kind of structures on the valley side. I would take a look at that on site. Perhaps there is still a chance, if one of the neighbors already has that?


Although, as I understand it, the eaves height is defined here as the intersection between the outer wall and the roof covering – not the height of the gutter.

I have done some sketches and looked at what might be possible here. What do you think of this proposal?
On one hand, I would find the terrace facing southwest nice because of the view and the evening sun. On the other hand, that would be towards the street and might be easily visible -> Hence the hedge all around. Garage with space for trash bins and garden tools. Perhaps a door into the house could be realized here too. What do you think?
 

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