Painting new construction by own effort

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-29 10:19:29

motorradsilke

2022-12-31 12:46:08
  • #1
I see it the same way. Especially since there will still be furniture against the walls and curtains and pictures hanging anyway. We also did it ourselves, but only filled in the roughest unevennesses because we had no time, and then just painted white. In the hallway, textured paint, on the other walls StoColor Sil In. 1 x primer, 2 x topcoat. We are still satisfied except for a few small spots. I will redo those next year; then a little color will come in too, so far everything is white.
 

Tolentino

2022-12-31 15:11:21
  • #2
1. Paint fleece != fleece wallpaper While the latter is often made of fiberglass, i.e. diffusion-resistant, paint fleece is mostly made of cellulose and textile fiber and is usually diffusion-open. 2. Even without an underlying diffusion-open layer, silicate-containing paint should be preferred over dispersion paints concerning mold risk, as silicate paints are mold-inhibiting. 3. Sanding once is enough if the grammage is high enough. With 150g/m^2, still existing dents and dimples are very well covered. My recommendation would be: sand yourself, have paint fleece (heavier quality) glued, and then paint yourself. This saves costs, distributes the tasks according to demands and skills, and results in a good overall outcome.
 

xMisterDx

2022-12-31 15:41:58
  • #3
Either I want silicate paint, then I want as few organic components as possible in my wall construction. Or I glue fleece, then it doesn't matter whether silicate paint or pure dispersion?

Dispersion doesn't completely seal either, but truly diffusion-open is something else.

The wall behind fleece will not absorb or release nearly as much moisture as without fleece and adhesive.

But yes. You can of course do that, the painter will of course charge you accordingly. He's not stupid either and thinks when making the offer,
"Yeah yeah, the laborious dirty job, you want me to do that, you can't do it yourself, right? And the simple jobs, where we make a profit in the cost calculation, you do yourself... Then I'll just give you a price for that, my friend ;)"
 

Tolentino

2022-12-31 15:56:22
  • #4
My experience is that wallpapering is a very rewarding job for painters. Because they know how to do it and very little mess is created, whereas for amateurs it is a fiddly task. Sanding is probably the dirtiest job in the strictest sense, but at the same time not particularly demanding craft-wise with the right equipment. It is common to pay relatively more for a single task than for the entire trade, simply due to the inherent costs. But I have had good experience taking the lengthy or dirty work off the hands of the craftsmen. Sanding is, as mentioned, very dirty. Painting itself is time-consuming due to drying times. Real painters can wallpaper on their own. It can be worked through quickly without waiting times and breaks can be taken after each strip. Again, with silicate paint it is not solely about diffusion, but also about the (nonexistent) nutrient base, or even an environment hostile to mold. Due to its strong alkalinity, silicate paint is mycophobic regardless of the substrate.
 

xMisterDx

2022-12-31 16:01:56
  • #5
Whoever paints with silicate paint because they think it prevents mold and means they have to ventilate less or generally be less careful... well, they can go ahead.

I want this paint because it optimizes the indoor climate. And [Vlies] has nothing to do with that.
 

Tolentino

2022-12-31 22:08:54
  • #6

And that is nonsense. Painter's fleece is vapor-permeable! It is not a vinyl wallpaper!
 

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