perlenmann
2014-02-07 10:21:14
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Exactly, that's why you couldn't answer my question either.
Which question? How many systems I have already planned? But I did answer that.
Gas condensing boilers and heat pumps are two completely different principles of heat generation. This results in partly different requirements and necessities. To limit it solely to the flow temperature is simply wrong. Moreover, it is not the flow temperature but precisely the heating medium temperature difference that is decisive. For heat pumps, this is a very important criterion, for gas condensing boilers less important. On the contrary, here somewhat higher flow temperatures are even advantageous!
That's clear, similar to electric cars and gasoline engines. Still, a high flow temperature ruins the seasonal performance factor of a heat pump. And as you yourself write, it doesn't matter to a gas condensing boiler, on the contrary, fire is naturally warmer than 35 degrees.
Besides, I didn't want to limit it to the flow temperature, but to give an example of misdimensioning. For a heat pump, the flow temperature is decisive for efficiency.
Here I would be happy if you could write something about faulty planning of a gas condensing boiler. I would be interested to know what can go wrong there.
Only the real heat generator effort number is a comparative criterion, as far as energy balances are concerned.
For gas condensing boilers always > 1, since the actual consumption is always greater than the demand. For heat pumps < 1, since by using environmental energy consumption is less than the demand. For direct electric = 1!
For gas condensing boilers, this number is determined by forming the quotient of consumption at the meter and the actual amount of energy used for heating and hot water (measured with a heat meter).
So practically for a heat pump the reciprocal of the seasonal performance factor?
See my previous post. An average value from existing buildings, new builds (energy saving ordinance up to passive house).
Best regards.
Also here, I am a layman, still don't understand this average value. We are mainly talking about new builds here, so at least energy saving ordinance. Depending on size, the direction should actually be around 8 MWh or even smaller, right?! What use is an average from existing buildings for new builds?
And honestly, €, answers like that help. Heretical questions apparently don't only get on my nerves.