Modern single-family house with architect in southern Germany

  • Erstellt am 2020-08-14 09:58:29

hanse987

2020-08-14 14:42:38
  • #1
Only the floor heights are listed in the plans. Have the planned clear room height given to you. With the 2.75m floor height, a room height of 2.4m results (estimated 20cm concrete ceiling + 15cm screed construction and insulation). The floor covering can also be another 2cm. Then you would already be below the 2.4m required by the BayBO for living rooms in Bavaria. For example, BW only requires 2.3m. What kind of floor construction is going into the basement, since nothing is drawn in there yet?

Even though the feeling of the room is very individual, I would not do anything below 2.5m clear room height.
 

ypg

2020-08-14 14:50:44
  • #2
Do I understand correctly that an increase of the floor area is out of the question? What a pity – one could completely do without one floor. Well then: entrance from the garden side I find suboptimal... I don’t understand the reason. Also the position of the stairs... I have already thought of a later separation of living units, but the ground floor plus basement will not be a dream apartment that you would want to live in yourself or rent out. In this respect, it is obvious: swap stairs and entrance... then the stairs can also become a cozy highlight instead of a corner piece of furniture. Other possibilities then offer themselves. I also don’t find the kitchen nice at all... big dance floor that simply appears unfurnished. House shape, meaning the height, I find cool (although of course the stairs can become annoying) But it looks a bit different. And the open gable would be a highlight of the whole house. One would gladly drive towards it.
 

ypg

2020-08-14 14:54:40
  • #3
Forgotten



The controlled residential ventilation ducting fits perfectly into the screed, so no ceiling suspension is needed. In this respect, no increase is necessary, but a bit more always feels nicely airy.
 

South

2020-08-14 14:56:07
  • #4
Yes, the name "Dragon’s Den" probably doesn’t come from nowhere.

First of all: I like the "townhouse" with its three full floors. An architectural style that is increasingly found again in big cities, especially due to the small footprint. Because of my profession, I get to visit such new buildings quite often and have grown fond of them. Personally, I also like the exterior view, but that is always very individual. My mother-in-law covered her hallway with a white, somewhat subtle but still glittery wallpaper – it scares me. For her, for example, my bathroom is too dark. So what. You have to like the exterior view.

The only thing to consider is whether the upper floor will actually be used in old age, despite stair lifts etc. In general, after the children have moved out, you have a lot of space that must also be maintained/cleaned and is probably used less. But again: Usually you don’t design your house to be senior-friendly or make the children’s rooms particularly small just to have less effort at 65+. With your budget, you could surely afford a cleaning lady, or you sell, etc. A granny flat is always a tricky thing, many plan it but only a few actually implement it in the end, because you don’t want someone looking down into the garden from above, or the loud stomping overhead is more annoying than expected. And once the house is paid off, you usually don’t rely on the income anyway. Privacy is more important than rental income. So if you like the attic and can and want to afford it with all financial consequences, then go ahead and enjoy it.

But now to the floor plan: I want to point out that this is my taste and my idea/experience. It may not apply to you:

1. Kitchen: I am not a fan of U-shaped kitchens, especially not with a kitchen island. That’s too many walking routes for me. I like it when I have everything more or less within one step and one hand movement. With a smaller U-shape, that applies again, but it no longer looks as nice then. A kitchen island, nicely large, possibly even wider than usual, parallel to the "main kitchen" I like visually and functionally more. A well thought-out classic. I might even swap kitchen and living room.

2. As already mentioned: No TV downstairs could become a problem. But it doesn’t have to. Since you’re planning a connection there anyway, for me that’s no further point of discussion.

3. I’m just too dumb to recognize this right now. Ground floor and first floor 2.75 m clear height? If so, I find that good, otherwise it would at least feel oppressive on the ground floor.

4. The wardrobe and entrance area is nice. It is spacious and cleverly designed, so that there is a lot of storage space with little floor space consumption.

5. What I would personally change immediately, but maybe does not fit you currently because the children are still small, is to give the children their own level and the parents their own level as well. There should still be room for a home office in the 2nd floor, also on the 1st floor, but then it would be right next to the children’s rooms. When the children are older, I would find it great if they and the parents each have more privacy and might not have to be particularly quiet because mom and dad are sleeping next door. And the upper floor would be perfect for a wellness oasis with a view (depending on how the adjacent development turns out). Such a thing can’t be realized in a normal "standard" single-family house. I admit, that would be a little dream of mine.

6. I do not find the bathroom bad at first glance. But it will certainly also evoke ambivalent feelings here. The dimensions would be interesting for better evaluation.

Best regards from the North.
 

Martial.white

2020-08-14 16:34:19
  • #5

Exactly right. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to enlarge the floor area. It's just "unfortunately" in the middle of the city and in this old residential area they don't want any larger buildings anymore.



The staircase ended up at this corner of the house so that we don't "block" the large high room upstairs in the attic with a staircase in the middle when working. Instead, it sits at the corner in the attic. The plan is to catch the mail carrier at the garden gate with a parcel box, mailbox, and video intercom.

For understanding, as mentioned above, the house is located in the second row, only accessible via a 50-meter-long driveway. So basically a pipehead plot. Each side of the property borders the gardens of the surrounding houses. The houses are all between 25 and 50 meters away from our house.

Also, the door is at this spot as well as the kitchen, so we can quickly and easily carry groceries into the kitchen.

Nevertheless, I've been thinking for a while about a "side door" instead of a wardrobe window, which was also suggested by the architect as an option. Your opinions actually encourage me in this!

Let's see if this will be the main door in the future, at least for DHL, DPD, Post, etc.



Thank you very much
 

Martial.white

2020-08-14 16:44:32
  • #6
Shortened quote from South for better clarity:




1. & 6.: Kitchen and bathroom are on the agenda for the next 4 weeks. We haven’t planned anything here yet. Currently, ALL furniture, sinks, etc. are placeholders and by no means final. The kitchen as it is now is terrible and in the bathroom I don't think I want to slam the door against the bidet every morning. Also, the bathroom needs a good idea on how to combine my wife’s wishes for privacy and my floor-to-ceiling windows.

2. Yes.

3. In the current plan, it is NOT the clear ceiling height of 275, but the shell height. We already changed that for the ground floor, and for the ground floor with the large rooms we are adding +20 cm or one more step on the staircase. Shell height 295 – later clear height 260 +/- 2 cm depending on statics/ceiling thickness.

4. Thank you! That was exactly the requirement to the architect.

5. Great idea, I will plan it so that when the kids are old enough, we move the parents' bedroom upstairs and then either put the office on the upper floor or additionally set up a place to work upstairs. With drywall partitions, that is no problem.

But unfortunately, this will not happen in the near future.
 

Similar topics
03.02.2017Single-family house 2 floors without basement - floor plan - costs - feasibility?24
10.01.2015Single-family house with side entrance - floor plan discussion?17
06.11.2014Houses without basements: Storage space, hobby basement?49
08.02.2015Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm without basement - assessment172
26.06.2015Floor plan question, stairs, window, orientation12
27.08.20152 full floors, passage to garage, utility room under stairs25
20.11.2015Single-family house with a small footprint, attic and basement, neighbor's approval31
27.04.2016Floor plan design basement, ground floor + attic floor12
26.06.2016Floor plan 180 sqm plus basement - 12.40m x 9.04m21
14.08.2016Dining table in a small kitchen49
09.12.2016Planning/Floor plan single-family house (approx. 140 sqm, basement, ground floor, attic)30
30.05.2017First draft single-family house 150m² with basement38
05.03.2018Cooking island / work island in the kitchen - Which extractor hood?49
28.11.2020Layout Planning: Bathroom Shower47
12.09.2019Need optimization? Single-family house with 130 m² + basement26
30.09.2019Floor plan optimization of a single-family house with a basement on a small plot178
14.04.2021Floor plan design for bungalow with basement - 140 sqm - slight slope90
25.11.2021Floor plan change single-family house 150 m² due to stairs36
27.03.2022Dressing room door to the bathroom34
04.10.2022Floor plan single-family house 190m2 with basement. Feedback?41

Oben