Loxone roller shutter control simple control?

Which boxes would be the depths? 65mm or 50mm???

I personally couldn’t do anything with Shellys and decided to go with Bosch despite the 2.5 times higher price

What exactly were your problems with it? Or to put it another way, what can you do now with the Bosch solution that wouldn’t have worked with Shellys?

What exactly were your problems with it? Or to put it differently, what can you do now with the Bosch solution that wouldn’t have worked with Shelleys?

Shelleys are basically "DIY solutions," in this case Bosch (similar to Homematic) is much more mature and elegant. Shelleys are installed behind existing switches with 8 cables. Takes much more time, space in the box, and nerves. Software = smartphone app didn’t appeal to me.

What was important for me personally was the HomeKit integration (Apple). In principle, this is possible with Shelly, but not officially and only through a roundabout way. In the end it "worked" but no.

Then I bought the Bosch parts as a set (43 EUR/piece) and everything ran exactly as desired in a very short time. HomeKit directly onboard, installation within a few minutes, clean software and HomeKit integration. The devices also completely replace the switch and are not just wired behind it. Uses 4 cables (instead of 8), with additional inexpensive adapters the existing rocker switches are adapted so that the switches turn into push-buttons.

The only "disadvantage" is the necessity of an additional base/central (< 50 EUR). I had this anyway (at this point Bosch TwinGuard is recommended) and this in turn offers the advantage that the base communicates with the switches over 868 MHz instead of relying entirely on Wi-Fi. The base control is done normally via Wi-Fi in the house, and the base communicates between systems via 868 MHz. Theoretically less prone to interference and longer range. The latter is only theoretical since nowadays proper Wi-Fi throughout the whole house is standard.

This is my experience and recommendation not to save at the wrong end. Which of course is relative if you start discussing KNX and the like.

Shellys are basically "DIY solutions," in this case Bosch (similar to Homematic) are much more mature and elegant. Shellys are installed behind existing switches with 8x cables. Takes much more time, space in the box, and nerves. Software = Smartphone app did not appeal to me.

Important for me personally was the HomeKit integration (Apple). This is basically possible with Shelly, but not officially and in a roundabout way. In the end it "worked," but no.

Then I bought the Bosch parts in a set (43 EUR each) and everything worked as desired within a very short time. HomeKit directly on board, installation within minutes, clean software and HomeKit integration. The devices also completely replace the switch and are not just wired behind it. Works with 4x cables (instead of 8x), with additional inexpensive adapters the existing rocker switches are adapted so that the switches become push buttons in the end.

The only "disadvantage" is the need for another base/station (< 50 EUR). I had this anyway (at this point Bosch TwinGuard is recommended) and this in turn offers the advantage that the base communicates with the switches via 868 MHz instead of relying entirely on Wi-Fi. Control of the base is therefore normally via Wi-Fi in the house, the base between the systems is via 868 MHz. Theoretically less prone to interference and longer range. The latter is only theoretical, since nowadays good Wi-Fi throughout the house is basically standard.

This is my experience and recommendation not to save at the wrong end. Which of course is relative again when you start to discuss KNX and Co.

Are standard boxes sufficient here or do I also need deep ones?

One should always take deep doses. It is easier for everyone afterwards, regardless of what one ultimately decides. Especially with roller shutters or venetian blinds (blinds) with the amount of cables.

You should always use deep boxes. It is easier for everyone afterwards, regardless of what you ultimately decide. Especially with roller shutters or venetian blinds (jalousies) given the amount of cables.

Now the question is, how deep are deep boxes?