LAN / WLAN / Telephone - looking for suitable hardware components

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-12 08:37:44

Kaspatoo

2017-04-30 11:16:28
  • #1
Ok, I will try that. Thanks.

How do you connect a phone?
WLAN-capable DECT?
LAN-capable DECT?
Phone cable from house connection room/router to the location?
For the DECT base next to the router, I think the signal for the handsets will probably not reach through the whole house.

In the other post you just wrote:

Quote from Kaspatoo:
Are there now phones that can be connected via WLAN or do I still need a phone cable from the router to the phone’s location?

-> There have been telephones with DECT for decades and these work very well in and around the house, alongside your WLAN.

So place the base centrally in the house via LAN and have reception throughout the house (including across floors) via DECT.

Just to be sure I understood correctly:

From the router I distribute LAN throughout the house. The phone must be IP-capable? and can then be connected to the router via LAN and work?
Do I need a special tariff from the DSL provider for that? Or a different one than the router provided by the respective provider? Or are standard DSL contracts and supplied routers only sufficient for analog phones?
 

Mycraft

2017-04-30 13:33:36
  • #2


This is about ISDN but it’s the same principle...just imagine instead of "ISDN telephone system" on the picture, it says telephone. The UAE sockets would then be one port on your patch panel and one RJ-45 socket (LAN) somewhere in the house.





DECT is DECT, it has absolutely nothing to do with WLAN or LAN...it operates on different frequencies and is a completely different topic.



If you have more than 50m between them then possibly not...How big is the house going to be?

As I showed you with the picture, you’re not necessarily forced to set up the DECT phone next to the router. If you place the base on the ground floor and your ceilings are especially thick, a good phone should still at least reach half of the usual range, about 25m...so a "typical" house would be covered.



No, from the switch...the router is usually a separate device unless you only have 3-4 sockets in the house, then it’s usually all-in-one.



No, why would it?



You only use the existing CAT cables for the phone, but these are not integrated into the LAN. That wouldn’t work, those are simply two different systems.



No, what happens behind the APL usually doesn’t interest the provider at all...



That’s a matter of taste...one person likes the provided hardware, another doesn’t...a third doesn’t care and just uses whatever’s there.



Usually the supplied hardware supports analog as well as ISDN / IP telephony / DECT...WLAN and routing are usually included too.

Just read what’s offered...it’s all there...
 

Kaspatoo

2017-05-01 22:12:48
  • #3
I have now understood it this way:

The house connection is in the basement, where the TAE will be.
I connect a router to it.
I connect a patch panel to the router.
I connect all LAN cables, which run to all rooms in the house, to the patch panel.
In any room with a LAN connection, I plug in my analog phone, possibly with an RJ11 to RJ45 adapter.

Normally, I know it so that I plug the phone into the router via an F-connector.
Now the phone signal arrives via the internal network in the router.
That still works, or do I have to pull out the LAN cable, to which the analog phone is now connected, from the patch panel again and connect it separately via an F-connector adapter to the F-connector of the router?
 

11ant

2017-05-02 00:20:58
  • #4


Almost yes. Essentially, you have understood it. Only you are using the terms a bit incorrectly.

You plug into the "first TAE" (which comes from the connection provider) what you call the router (probably because it contains something like that). Let's call it, for example, Fritzbox. From there, you go out from each port to the patch panel, with which you (like in the times of Kaiser, the lady from the telephone exchange) plug, for example, the telephone connection where the socket for the phone should be. The internal house cabling network in which this happens is basically already a LAN, you are right there. Only the term LAN is assigned to its use in the IT area and creates a bit of confusion in the discussion.

Every socket is wired to the patch panel. Every connection as well. In the patch panel, these are plugged together. Actually, you are a human router when you plug in the cables.
 

Kaspatoo

2017-05-02 08:29:03
  • #5

Why do you call it the "first TAE"? I didn't mention multiple ones and isn't it just the TAE?
What do you call it if not a router? I am pretty sure that this is definitely the correct term here.


You don't mean that I should plug all four LAN ports from the router (assuming it has more than one) into there, but only the different connections of the router? (meaning 1x LAN (RJ45) + 1x AMT (F-connector).

For the latter, an adapter to RJ-45 is needed?




So, through the patch panel the telephone signal via the directly connected network cable goes nowhere else than to the AMT port of the router and never comes into contact with the LAN?



The plugging together happens by connecting each of these other connections (so without AMT and possibly others) with its own/additional cable to a switch?
I of course have to make sure that the LAN port of the router also finds its way to the switch.

I tried to illustrate my understanding graphically:
 

Mycraft

2017-05-02 08:50:40
  • #6
Yes, something like that is still not 100% accurate but comes very close to what you ultimately want.

P.S. There are no WLAN switches... anyone who claims otherwise has no idea.
 

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