Invoice for water connection despite payment through property price?

That would also be quite possible. Prepayment for the construction of the water supply systems, that is to say, the pipes under the paths and streets up to the individual plots... please clarify with the Notar what you have paid. Before you give the Rumpelstilz to the municipality. Karsten

Just my experience with our building authority, without looking up the specific contract texts:

- Purchase in a new development area from the municipality. Included in the purchase price of the plot is a levy for the construction of the supply facilities... i.e. water and wastewater in the street. However, during construction, all plots were simultaneously supplied with house connections, 1m behind the boundary. All invoices were accompanied by measurements and delivered materials.

I additionally paid, each settled via the municipality and with a copy of the invoice from the executing company:
- Connection of 15m PE pipe as an overhead line to the fresh water sleeve in the open trench.
- Construction of fresh water house connection including 1 valve (this is exactly the part from the line in the street up to the property)
- Construction of wastewater house connection (also from the sewer up to 1m on the property)

The wastewater drainage including inspection chamber, introduction of fresh water into the house then of course also followed, but we commissioned or carried out these ourselves.

What you paid with 2500. € probably belongs to the development costs?!

What is now being charged to you for over 10 meters are already the house connection costs...? That would at least be logical [emoji848]

Well, for us it’s also only 10 m including both water and gas

Where is this defined in writing by the municipality with you? Is this stated in your statute for the public water supply system?

Basically, I wouldn’t have any problem with the invoice if only someone could tell me/on what basis it is issued. I can’t find anything about it in the statute.

I put forward the assumption that the cost for the property purchase was a construction cost contribution and the current invoice is for the actual house connection. That would be perfectly normal.

Regarding the topic “house connection,” the statute writes in the section of term definitions:

[INDENT]"Property connections (= house connections) are the water pipes from the branch point of the supply line to the transfer point; they start with the connection device and end with the main shut-off device."[/INDENT]

[INDENT]"Transfer point is the end of the property connection behind the main shut-off device on the property/building."[/INDENT]

The statute continues:
"The property connection is constructed, maintained, renewed, altered, disconnected and removed by the municipality."

In the contribution and fee statute related to the water supply statute, only the square meters and number of floors are used as the basis for calculating the costs.

What you paid €2500 for probably belongs to the development costs?!

What is now invoiced to you for over 10 meters are already the house connection costs...? That would at least be logical [emoji848]

If that were the case, I would have had to place an order and receive a corresponding offer beforehand, right?

In the notarized purchase contract there is a section called “Development.” Here the topic of water supply is formulated as follows:

[INDENT]"The buyer commits to the seller to make advance payments for the construction contributions for the water supply according to the Municipal Charges Act (Kommunalabgabengesetz, KAG) and the municipal statutes as follows:
For the construction of the water supply facilities per square meter of property area an amount of XXX EUR [....] This results, assuming an area size of XXXX m2, in an advance payment of a gross EUR 1,300."[/INDENT]

What “water supply facilities” are, is not further specified. However, taken together with the above-quoted sentence from the statute (“The property connection is constructed by the municipality...”) and the related definition of terms, I consider this relatively clear.

I have already spoken with the notary – he seemed visibly overwhelmed by the question but then said during the conversation that “all pipes” are included. He wanted to confirm this to me in writing, but this is still pending.

Since by now some “free meters” have been offered to me, I find this highly questionable. My neighbor, who previously had a higher bill than I did, is now below my bill after the free meters – all highly strange.

I also simply don’t understand: if there is a basis for the invoice, why don’t they just say so?! “Look at statute page 3, paragraph 12...”

Manufacturing does not automatically mean payment.

I feel confirmed in my assumption. During the purchase, it was a construction cost surcharge and now the connection of the property. Only the lack of transparency of the price of the connection is annoying.

Also of course also against the background that according to the statute the municipality wants to retain ownership of the pipes. But it is probably the case that if a company bills me for 10 meters of water pipe, after payment it belongs to me. The municipality, on the other hand, is obligated by statute to supply me with water. But if they do not own the pipe, I could charge 100€ usage fee per cubic meter.
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If the amount is not exorbitant, for the sake of community peace I would probably prefer to pay. After all, you want to live there. Maybe you should address the matter openly and ask the building authority whether they miscalculated or what is going on? It is always good to sit opposite the other party at the table in such a case, instead of doing everything in writing.

btw: We also had to lay a water pipe at our own expense. We had to pay for the installation and were supposed to sign a contract immediately, whereby we then gifted it to the water supply. At first, this horrified us. You pay 12 thousand for something and then are supposed to give it away right away? However, the transfer is sensible as it also relieves you of liability for this pipe. So if the pipe breaks and dozens of tons of water run away, you would have to pay for it – we have already experienced that twice in the family.

We then made a contract that for every further household that connects here a certain amount x goes to us. That the suppliers are still crooks (they have already been convicted as such by a court for other reasons) became apparent when someone actually connected: We only received the agreed amount after asking, while the water supply sold the same connection to the new builder again for four times the price.