pagoni2020
2021-03-19 10:16:36
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Your concern is very personal, so some answers might also land with you more emotionally. One or two questions that I consider important unfortunately remain unanswered by you so far; ultimately, it’s none of my business either.
It can happen that at some point you get tunnel vision and no longer really see the position of others.
Such a proposed solution can only work if really EVERYONE!! sees a "gain" for themselves, but clearly the first problems are already emerging. As I said: €100 is quickly divided, €100,000 not so easy.
Everyone wants the biggest bite possible, and I would not exclude myself from that either.
The problems or rather the mistrust are already affecting the relationships, as you can see. So – everything is completely "normal" with you guys :D
Maybe it shows you that you can also become quite unhappy with such a house purchase.
...which would settle the thing. Why do you children check the value of the house and not the parents themselves?
The focus should be on "nice," "special" for Dad, but here it is rather left to chance "preferably nearby." That sounds too casual to me...
The other children simply want an advantage just like you, even if their reasoning is exaggerated. I find your approach understandable but also quite one-sided.
...not constantly? ...but sometimes, when HE deems it necessary. Such unclearly regulated things make my ears ring... Either it belongs to you completely or not at all. That’s why I pay my things properly or simply don’t buy them. There seem to be many mutual, unresolved expectations here... As long as it’s cheap.
That won’t calm tempers. Either it’s too expensive for you or too cheap for the others... and Dad ends up in the micro-apartment.
...and why doesn’t he pursue his own wish with a notary instead of the children calculating up and down? It belongs to him after all.
"Okay" is the little sister of crappy (sorry). Why should such a homeowner (father) live fairly mediocre at most in the future? In old age he will be living IN the apartment rather, so it has to be nice and comfortable for him there, with suitable size, location and equipment. That gets lost here! And... still no answer on care/support!!!
"Preferably also nearby" does not sound like a reliable arrangement for the father to experience security and comfort in old age from those who were favored before. Advantage is great but then please reciprocally.
Now I am shocked!
Apparently it does not belong to the father alone. What does the mother want then? She lives renting? Is she also asked? How is she secured? Does she also want to give away large parts of her own security during her lifetime without compensation? Why don’t father and mother clarify that first?
So dad can only make a "generous" down payment on his condominium because children want to pay. The mother lives renting... and all children will then live in their own houses??? Wow!
For me, as part of the older generation by now, something is wrong in the order here. The parents live in small (rented) apartments and are ultimately probably away from the children. How can you already want to divide the parents’ inheritance now, when both are still alive and apparently not well secured?
Problematic for whom? That would simply be correct!
To me it says that then Dad and Mom don’t have to worry in old age. In my environment, such a dad regularly sat on the terrace and cried because he never imagined it that way.
I do not want to attack you personally, please don’t misunderstand, but rather motivate you to leave your own tunnel vision. It’s enough if the millionaire brother is already in there.
I find the idea completely inappropriate given the known situation here, because the two parents must first be cared for, including in secure living arrangements, before the youth sharpens their knives. But I do not read much about that here.
It can happen that at some point you get tunnel vision and no longer really see the position of others.
Such a proposed solution can only work if really EVERYONE!! sees a "gain" for themselves, but clearly the first problems are already emerging. As I said: €100 is quickly divided, €100,000 not so easy.
Everyone wants the biggest bite possible, and I would not exclude myself from that either.
The problems or rather the mistrust are already affecting the relationships, as you can see. So – everything is completely "normal" with you guys :D
Maybe it shows you that you can also become quite unhappy with such a house purchase.
Unfortunately, I don’t think we can amicably agree on a market value.
...which would settle the thing. Why do you children check the value of the house and not the parents themselves?
The move to a 1-2 room apartment
The focus should be on "nice," "special" for Dad, but here it is rather left to chance "preferably nearby." That sounds too casual to me...
What to make of that is another matter .... ?
The other children simply want an advantage just like you, even if their reasoning is exaggerated. I find your approach understandable but also quite one-sided.
and that he won’t constantly "interfere" with us.
...not constantly? ...but sometimes, when HE deems it necessary. Such unclearly regulated things make my ears ring... Either it belongs to you completely or not at all. That’s why I pay my things properly or simply don’t buy them. There seem to be many mutual, unresolved expectations here... As long as it’s cheap.
Therefore, in my opinion, it is all the more important to obtain an expert appraisal/opinion of a third party about the house value.
That won’t calm tempers. Either it’s too expensive for you or too cheap for the others... and Dad ends up in the micro-apartment.
The wish comes from both us and my father.
...and why doesn’t he pursue his own wish with a notary instead of the children calculating up and down? It belongs to him after all.
The move to a 1-2 room apartment (preferably also in the immediate vicinity) is perfectly okay for him.
"Okay" is the little sister of crappy (sorry). Why should such a homeowner (father) live fairly mediocre at most in the future? In old age he will be living IN the apartment rather, so it has to be nice and comfortable for him there, with suitable size, location and equipment. That gets lost here! And... still no answer on care/support!!!
"Preferably also nearby" does not sound like a reliable arrangement for the father to experience security and comfort in old age from those who were favored before. Advantage is great but then please reciprocally.
There is also a mother (living in a rented apartment), they are separated.
Now I am shocked!
Apparently it does not belong to the father alone. What does the mother want then? She lives renting? Is she also asked? How is she secured? Does she also want to give away large parts of her own security during her lifetime without compensation? Why don’t father and mother clarify that first?
That means everyone would get half from the potential house sale, which should at least still be enough for a generous down payment on my father’s apartment.
So dad can only make a "generous" down payment on his condominium because children want to pay. The mother lives renting... and all children will then live in their own houses??? Wow!
For me, as part of the older generation by now, something is wrong in the order here. The parents live in small (rented) apartments and are ultimately probably away from the children. How can you already want to divide the parents’ inheritance now, when both are still alive and apparently not well secured?
It would only be problematic if the house is really appraised at a very high amount.
Problematic for whom? That would simply be correct!
To me it says that then Dad and Mom don’t have to worry in old age. In my environment, such a dad regularly sat on the terrace and cried because he never imagined it that way.
I do not want to attack you personally, please don’t misunderstand, but rather motivate you to leave your own tunnel vision. It’s enough if the millionaire brother is already in there.
I find the idea completely inappropriate given the known situation here, because the two parents must first be cared for, including in secure living arrangements, before the youth sharpens their knives. But I do not read much about that here.