High construction costs with rising building interest rates

  • Erstellt am 2025-05-02 19:20:23

ypg

2025-05-06 17:55:57
  • #1


Likewise. I like to quote my post #8


Very few people who think about building or buying a house put themselves at a disadvantage compared to their parents’ or grandparents’ generation. They live differently, in a future-shaped world and are adapted accordingly - they don’t look back.

Mr. Haus123 thinks he is global, but apparently he only sees his small focused and mentioned examples and thinks that is the problem for everyone.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-05-06 18:41:20
  • #2
Well. However, this here is also a very privileged forum with high earners. Of what most people here have left after deducting the mortgage... many families live on that and also pay their rent from it. I already said it. 40 years ago, my father could support a family well as the sole breadwinner. With a relatively normal income, a house would have been possible as well, but he never wanted one. Today, I am a father at a similar age to him back then, in the second highest wage group of IG Metall, and as the sole earner I definitely couldn't finance the house. My wife has to work part-time and even that is very privileged. Most people in our new housing development both work 40 hours a week. If Mom is no longer at home and spends the day doing the housework, then in the end everyone does everything. That creates stress and the feeling that it was more relaxed and better in the past. And now you can't come to me with any facts that contradict that. People have that feeling and I believe you can't even comprehend how little money many families in this country have to manage with. I know some who still take the deposit bottles back on the 27th because otherwise the fridge will be empty until the 1st.
 

Arauki11

2025-05-06 18:49:12
  • #3
True, facts are generally overrated.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-05-06 18:50:45
  • #4


Then come over and convince the 40% AfD voters here in the district, if you think it’s only about facts... don’t talk, Arauki... act.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-05-06 18:55:07
  • #5
By the way, a nice example for the next problem... then Arauki comes along, who is thinking about buying a 1.6 million property, speeds up in his 5-series and tells the mason, who works 42 hours a week for the minimum wage in the East, that basically everything is great. People have never had it better, blah blah... He just has to work 80 hours, then he can afford a little house and a vacation.

So better don't come by, otherwise we'll soon have 60% AfD here. You'll even get the last middle-class business owner to the far right...
 

chand1986

2025-05-06 18:57:52
  • #6

And I claim that a house of simple standard in the size that would have been built back then would still be feasible today. Assuming the same effort as own labor. But nobody builds that today. Bigger, higher standard, garage. Partly because it must be (insulation), partly because people think it must be (garage, flood of sockets, floor-level tiling throughout, lift-and-slide standard, landscaping not done by oneself). And above all: additional sqm, each child their own room.

You can want that, I would want that too. But that is not what the sole breadwinning craftsman built. Not 30 years ago, not 60.

The harsh answer: Who has the new additional stress? Those who, back in Year X, came home after finished wage labor, everything was done and with the kids there was quality time or hobbies. The annoying everyday life was organized away by the woman, who got a warm handshake for it, and people talked about fair division of labor. Are you surprised that just under half of the population doesn’t find that so highly desirable?
 

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