Fundamental questions about financing

  • Erstellt am 2018-06-20 22:32:23

Rumpelkopf

2018-06-22 09:57:03
  • #1
I think these are two different discussions.

1) Does everyone definitely set their own, individual price they are willing to pay for something? Can we even form a judgment about this based on the little information about the person (credit situation, attitude to life and value creation), the environment, the location and the conditions on site?

2) If there is only one new building plot in a town and demand is very high, can one expect a bank to start a lottery procedure to decide who gets the plot? Surely it is the demand that determines the price and the way to decide who is awarded the plot? Who is selling? A bank! What interests does a bank pursue? Also, we don’t even know how the bank came to possess the plot to be able to judge why it links the sale to additional proceeds from the commission, and usually commission payments are for the bank’s broker, it is assumed that the bank certainly does not want to make any changes but rather wants to have its own efforts honored and possibly this is simply the reason why it took on the sale of the plot.

Certainly, the interest rate difference to the best conditions available on the market seems significant, but if that were the only issue, other banks would have to be criticized and their business practices questioned.

I consider it inappropriate to speak of being fooled here, and also to cite prices from 20 years ago, and in the end the bank will say no one forces it to buy the plot and unfortunately it is right about that.

Not nice, when considering one’s own interests, but unfortunately we also have to consider and take into account those of the bank if we want to discuss this frustrating and unfortunate situation for the OP objectively.
 

DerStefan81

2018-06-22 10:01:02
  • #2
In our village, the infrastructure is good: Various grocery stores, primary school, comprehensive school, sufficient kindergartens, train connection to Hamburg, my wife can commute to work by bike or on foot, mother lives in the village, father in the next one. In the surrounding area, there is a planned development area with construction possibilities in the next 3-5 years, price €125. One village further, there is still a plot in a new development area, price €100. In both villages there is no infrastructure: shopping and schools are in my village (distance 5-7 km).
 

Rumpelkopf

2018-06-22 10:07:02
  • #3
That's what I mean, which price do I want to pay? The one for the more expensive plot or, for example, not having everything on site and constantly having to drive to another town for errands.

Follow-up costs can also play a role, is another car possibly needed for a different plot? Do you want, can, and should you avoid a longer commute to school for the children? Sports club on site? Can all that be reached by bike?

I think everyone thinks about it individually and everything has its price, and who wants to pay which one can only be decided by each person for themselves.
 

Zaba12

2018-06-22 10:23:07
  • #4


I see it purely from the builder’s perspective, Thomas. Just because the bank dictates it and the market unfortunately currently allows it, you don’t have to play these games. Of course, from the bank’s point of view it is not a “rip-off”, how could it be; it thinks economically, profit-oriented and thereby secures jobs. However, the original poster and all other builders here are not welfare or receiving gifts.

If you want to play along with this game to enjoy the advantages that the original poster described here, then you have to bite the bullet. But then you can’t complain that it is unfair. That’s just how it is. Even a fixed interest period of 5 years (1% with a fantasy surcharge of 0.8%) first needs the bank’s approval. That is also not yet crystal clear, but only an idea from the forum.

And once again especially for you, Thomas, from a builder’s point of view it is “arbitrariness” and “rip-off”, because obviously – and the original poster noticed this too – he would theoretically have to pay significantly less than the bank demands. For you as a broker these are pass-through items to be considered in financing. For the original poster and all others simply additional costs that wouldn’t have been necessary if the bank were fair.

You can shove the word “inappropriate” somewhere else, or have you recently become a moderator here? As I have written several times, this is not your forum. Unlike you, I am open and honest and have no desire to lull the original poster with platitudes.

But we can gladly continue this little game, Thomas. You seem to really be up for it, otherwise you would have adapted your nagging to the customs here in the forum.
 

HilfeHilfe

2018-06-22 10:26:54
  • #5


100 compared to 195 € I find immense. 95% surcharge, whereas countryside is countryside. If you need a car, you need a car.

You have to decide for yourself. Regarding the planned. That is the future, whether and how it will come. And whether the 125 € is still listed...
 

DerStefan81

2018-06-22 10:39:37
  • #6

No, we have 2 cars.


Of course, that also plays a role, or if you have to drive the children to the neighboring town to play and pick them up.


The sports club is in the "expensive" town and can be reached on foot or by bicycle.
 

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