Floor plan - suggestions & criticism welcome!

  • Erstellt am 2016-07-29 16:24:14

Climbee

2016-08-01 10:55:21
  • #1
Ahh, no basement, so then you can’t store a home office there either. Really no basement? For a maximum of 4 people, you have relatively little storage space in the house. But with two children, that adds up. Is that enough? (Just a thought).
Okay, I also read that you’re actually only planning one child, but leaving the option open for a second. Then I would really only plan for two children’s rooms and NO home office. When the first (planned) child arrives, that fits perfectly: 1 child, 1 home office.
If the second one does come along at some point, then you just make sure to possibly set up a work corner in the bedroom or living room. Personally, I would prefer that over building two children’s rooms, although I’m not even sure that I want two children myself.

Why is the terrace door in the kitchen so important to you? You can really get to the garden quickly through the door in the dining area, and I think you would gain quite a bit in functionality and ergonomics in the kitchen if you plan a U-shape (then, for example, the free-standing work island in the room could be somewhat shorter). Apart from the additional storage space. And, as I wrote above: a window along the entire work surface makes the kitchen overall brighter. Right now it’s quite dark with the narrow door.
 

Lanini

2016-08-01 11:18:51
  • #2

I’ve also thought about that and that’s actually why I came to the conclusion that it’s not so bad if there are only narrow cabinets on one side. At the moment, our shelves in the closet are also just over 40 cm deep (60 cm cabinet, but the shelves are not that deep) and that is completely sufficient. However, I have already planned to possibly hang more clothes in the future (simply for ease of use), so 60 cm cabinets on both sides wouldn’t be bad either. Basically, the dressing room is wide enough for 2 x 60 cm cabinets, and it would be quite good if it could be utilized like that, if possible.


I think we are talking past each other here or I’m misunderstanding you ops:. The door that definitely should stay is the door from the hallway to the kitchen (interior door), so not the glass door (terrace door) between the kitchen rows leading outside. I had also considered, instead of the glass door, making a window with a sill in the kitchen, also across the entire width. Take a look at my very first post; somewhere in the middle of the text, I also included a modified sketch of the south view. That’s what you meant too, right?


As you already noticed, we don’t have a basement. The home office is initially just a "reserve," the actual home office will first be one of the children’s rooms. Since we initially plan on having only one child but don’t know if maybe someday a second child might be planned, we would also like to have an additional home office (the home office according to the floor plan). At first, it is supposed to be used as a hobby room/storage or something similar, or we can leave out the wall between child 1 and the home office for now, as has been suggested here already. The office is only meant to provide us with a place for our exclusively privately used PC and a bit of storage space for files/folders and paperwork, so the size is sufficient.


The bathroom will definitely be arranged differently, that is for sure. The way it was originally designed by the planner is out of the question for us. I also inserted a sketch of a modified version of the bathroom somewhere in the middle of the text in my first post. Take a look at it. This is roughly how we imagine it. It’s not a T-solution, but the toilet is somewhat hidden and the shower is big enough. We also like T-solutions, but for that you definitely need a wider bathroom (ours is rather narrow) or generally a very large bathroom. We visited several model homes with T-solutions where everything seemed cramped and tight to us. Therefore, the T-solution is not an option for us in our bathroom with these dimensions.

Regarding storage space: I think it should be sufficient. Or don’t you think so? We have the utility room with just over 10 m², we also have a few square meters of storage space under the stairs for small stuff like vacuum cleaner/cleaning supplies or crates of drinks or whatever. Then we still have an attic where things that are not used frequently can be stored (Christmas decorations, etc.). And then there’s the storage room behind the garage with about 18 m², where garden furniture, tools, etc., can be stored. We actually thought that should be enough. In addition, we probably will only have one child (that’s the plan anyway). Then the home office would also be available as additional storage space since one of the children’s rooms would be the office. So honestly, we haven’t worried too much about storage space. I actually think most floor plans here in the forum have less storage than we do, so we assumed we shouldn’t have problems with that? Am I so wrong? Of course, I won’t be able to hoard loads of stuff, but I don’t want that either. I see my parents’ basement – roughly 90% of the things in there just belong in the trash.
 

Jochen104

2016-08-01 11:31:41
  • #3
Hello,
I have dissected your post a bit to respond to you appropriately:

My parents have a similar layout where the kitchen door is closer to the front door than the living room door. Everyone runs through the kitchen there, and we didn’t want that. Without a wall stub, the path through the living room isn’t really much longer.
But that is, of course, a matter of taste.

The staircase makes or breaks every floor plan. We absolutely wanted a straight staircase. If that would be an option for you as well, I can make our floor plan available to you.

I didn’t find that door in your plans.

You’re welcome.

I would make them all with a railing on the upper floor. The window in the top right is the children’s room for us. It has a floor-to-ceiling window there and on the side (see my avatar). That really ruins many possibilities for placing furniture.

We are glad to have our windows in the garage and storage room. The garage probably isn’t possible for you because of the boundary building line. First, it makes it bright, and secondly, you can also ventilate the rooms with it without having to always keep the garage door or the door open. We also have a glass element in the door.
 

Lanini

2016-08-01 11:42:06
  • #4

I can’t let go of this door. It has to stay. As you said, it’s a matter of taste, and for us, it’s out of the question without a door.


At the very beginning, we also toyed with the idea of a straight staircase but dismissed it quite quickly again. We simply fell in love with the landing staircase. If you like, you can still show me your floor plan sometime; maybe I’ll be convinced after all.


Oops, I made a typo. I didn’t mean “door” but “wall.” Take a look on page 1 in post #6 by ktb09.


I had already thought about doing knee walls everywhere. We’ll see, I’ll play around with the windows extensively in the next few days.


Okay, I’ll discuss that with my husband.
 

Jochen104

2016-08-01 11:57:44
  • #5

I sent you a message

OK, that makes sense. It also came from

Yes, you have to take a lot of time for that. We also moved quite a few things back and forth until we were satisfied with the views.
 

Climbee

2016-08-01 12:29:07
  • #6
Yep, I meant the patio door in the kitchen!

If really only one child is planned and at most maybe a second one could be imagined, I would definitely start by planning just one large KZ and one AZ upstairs with the option to possibly put up a wall if the second child does come.

Storage space: well, I always have too little storage space
You can never have enough.
What I would totally miss, for example, would be a small workshop. I find it practical to have a room for tinkering where you don’t have to put everything away every time. Upstairs in your storage room next to the garage, you will surely need a lot of space for garden tools etc. and there won’t be space for that, plus it probably isn’t heated. Workshop, or let’s call it more prosaically a DIY crafting room *g*, I wouldn’t like to have unheated.
But everyone has to decide that for themselves and it surely also depends on the soil conditions. On normal soil, a basement doesn’t cost that much more than a slab foundation and I would never want to do without the additional storage space.
However, we also have many hobbies that require quite a bit of equipment and we really have a problem with that at the moment. (just the diving gear alone takes up a lot of space, plus various kinds of skis, climbing gear, different mountain shoes, backpacks etc.)

Windows in the garage and storage room: definitely, if possible. As I said, it’s not possible in a boundary wall, but no one forbids you to have glass elements in the doors. At least for the storage room, I would plan a large door (there are these workshop doors) with a large glass portion. A large door also makes sense if you want to get bigger items in there (and out again).
 

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