Floor plan & positioning Single-family house approx. 150 sqm 2 full floors Gable roof

  • Erstellt am 2024-09-17 02:04:48

hanse987

2024-09-17 21:59:06
  • #1
What are the 83cm between the garage and the property boundary supposed to be for? Either a proper passage width or none at all.

I would build the garage with a 5-6m distance from the street and redesign the rest of the floor plan.

The kitchen is too far from the terrace for my liking.

I would obtain the possibility of southern access in writing.
 

toni111

2024-09-18 01:47:35
  • #2

Budget: approx. €400,000 plus buffer


Garage that far from the street: I am uncertain about that myself. This results from the requirement that it should serve as a "buffer zone"/privacy screen for the neighbor and that the entrance is that far from the street. Additionally, it has advantages for visitors if sufficient parking spaces are available...


I am a fan of large garden areas. The southern part should remain free of buildings and be used as an orchard etc. Nevertheless, independent building should basically remain possible there.


I know the building regulations and regional planning. Both allow great freedom regarding construction. According to information from the building authority, a multi-story residential complex or various townhouse combinations would also be possible. The main restrictions for my single-family house are the setback areas, which I described in the opening post.


Okay, I will add that soon.


Thanks for the tips, I will consider them!


I didn’t describe it well, but two streets pass the property – north and south. The access to the southern part would therefore be via the southern street. The western area next to the house would thus always remain free.
The house orientation facing south was chosen because that way I have the largest possible free view into greenery and don’t have to look toward a neighbor’s house or a hedge. But I must admit that I am quite clueless on how the positioning could then look... What rotation would be necessary? 45 degrees?

What I unfortunately forgot to draw: the north arrow. That would show that the property is already slightly tilted to the west (approx. 10°).


Unfortunately, I described that misleadingly. See the above paragraph as a reply to ypg.
We would rather avoid selling parts of it already now. Even if more money were available, we would want to keep the budget as low as possible.


It is not a garage but an existing old garden shed/tool shed of 25 sqm, which should remain there. The pergola was just a graphical whim from me because I like to sit in this part of the garden (quiet and good shade thanks to the 6m tall hazel "trees" south of it).
It has no influence on our planning.


We really have very few requirements for the upper floor. The essential factors are really only the stairs and the chimney. Everything else would somehow work because we would be satisfied with small room sizes and any room orientation. Also, regarding wiring planning, nothing would need to be considered; the bathroom would always be located either above the kitchen or the technical room. We have many more requirements for the ground floor, which is why I have tried to plan it independently now – so far I have not seen a suitable type house floor plan that would correspond 1:1 to my planned ground floor. But I will try to sketch the upper floor!

Which planner we should commission and how really gives me a little headache. Either the planners gave no professional input on practical floor plans & positioning, or they couldn’t estimate the costs for fundamental decisions roughly. So far, we have not found a planner who can do both simultaneously.


The neighbors had a soil survey done 5 years ago about 10m from our planned house location (and then also built their basement there). According to information, the soil conditions are uncomplicated. Groundwater is at 4m depth, no strong fluctuations.
A construction company I asked stated that the price difference between slab and basement would be about €50,000 (€30,000 with owner-builder assistance).
Do I understand the basement rule correctly: since our plot is flat, a basement is unnecessary?


It was actually supposed to be 80cm and is not intended as a proper passage, but for eaves paving and to not be dependent on the neighbor regarding the wall.


Okay, thanks for the tips!
I could also move the kitchen to the office location. But that would bring other problems (I have already tried)...
 

11ant

2024-09-18 13:05:15
  • #3

But these also have to fit together.

Then everything is clear: choose an upper floor or derive a ground floor from all upper floors considered suitable. The utility room can be moved upstairs (because you said you could actually use 10 sqm more downstairs than upstairs), then basically only the house entrances come downstairs (which must not be built over and should be easily accessible).

The higher requirements for the ground floor are one of the two main reasons why laypeople tend to start designing with the ground floor. However, this regularly leads (not only for laypeople, the same gravity applies to professionals) to hopeless situations, which is why one should always start with the upper floor. Being more flexible with the upper floor in terms of requirements does not change the fact that the ground floor underneath must fit (unless you turn necessity into a feigned virtue and sell the customer a "bay window" everywhere the ground floor does not fit underneath). Type houses with a standalone upper floor do not exist; all upper floors suitable for you will include a ground floor. Show both together and describe what you do not like.

No, backwards! – if you want to add/tinker an upper floor to your ground floor from yesterday, you have not understood the principle yet.

I professionally search for architects (but not this month anymore, still contact me).

No, the cellar rule does not answer the question of whether a cellar is necessary. Rather, it answers how the costs of a cellar are divided between cellar construction costs and savings from terrain modeling. If the plot is actually flat, a cellar costs 100% cellar construction costs minus 0% savings in L-blocks and terrain modeling. Then, as a result, above-ground cellar replacement space is cheaper.

A broom passage just to avoid exercising hammer rights when you paint the wall every twenty years is still nicely called "luxury," it borders on decadence. If the neighbor or their successor fences in largely windproof, you end up having a prime leaf collection alley.
 

hanghaus2023

2024-09-18 13:40:42
  • #4
Table level and 10 degrees are certainly not the same.
 

11ant

2024-09-18 13:46:41
  • #5

I assume it is meant that the north-south axis is at aeronautical 35/17, and the terrain is topographically flat.
 

ypg

2024-09-18 14:10:34
  • #6
No, correct! Let him do it and gain his experience. It can't be done any other way.
 

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