Floor plan of semi-detached house with shed roof and balcony terrace - Feedback

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11ant

2022-09-10 18:18:45
  • #1
General contractors know only one interest (the customer’s money) and only one method to obtain it (stacking bricks). Everything standing in the way – whether the building authority with regulations or the customer with changing tastes – is diplomatically removed by engineering means. The goal is a house that is at least flawless within the warranty period – not infinite satisfaction in size and duration. No corporate profit can be realized from a philosophical search for true happiness; time is money. Never change a running system also applies to proven construction proposals :) They are economically refined; without more money / more space, there is very little that can be improved, at best changed. Worse: with each of these apparent improvements, the similarity of the result to the supposed ideal increases. At the “end stage” of pseudo-optimization, the speed of approaching saturation, as in any chemical reaction, tends toward zero, which the lay planner then joyfully perceives as the “final” home stretch. And the more experienced design discussants then have to exercise again, so the popcorn doesn’t go to their hips :) Smart builders therefore focus on a “house”, not a “Wolpertinger of Columbus” ;-)
 

K a t j a

2022-09-10 18:52:15
  • #2
Maybe the OP is still reading anonymously or maybe others are interested. I have finished the preliminary draft. Based on common semi-detached houses of similar sizes, just with pedestal stairs:







Since my program can only handle 3 levels, I initially left out the basement. It is unproblematic anyway.
 

kbt09

2022-09-10 18:55:49
  • #3
What can be clearly seen from this (just like in the example Goalkeeper that I linked above) is that it makes more sense to plan the staircase at the [Doppelhauswand] inside the house. This results in nicer, more straightforward rooms.
 

ypg

2022-09-10 18:58:57
  • #4

If you cut off one corner somewhere, you end up with two corners somewhere else. That's why it's usually not enough to just move a wall if you have to stay within the floor plan.
 

kbt09

2022-09-10 19:07:07
  • #5
I think it's good that communicates so openly that one can also make wrong decisions there due to lack of experience.
 

Hitokiri-1978

2022-09-13 04:14:57
  • #6
Which group? I also have better things to do than to receive hate and mockery from complete strangers. Imagine, if I didn’t check in here daily. And if it were a group, obviously I wouldn’t be a member. Whatever.

I’ll address a few points. And without joke or irony, but the worst bullying, hate, mockery, and tendentious insults I have faced here are an outrageous impertinence. Do whatever you want with the thread, close it, lock it, delete it. I don’t care. I’m REALLY out now, because I won’t put up with this crap any longer! Some have offered a few good ideas and approaches, thanks for that, but often followed by lectures that weren’t needed. And others were only being destructive. I’ve encountered such people before and was too quiet then, but that was decades ago and they better not meet me in real life today. It would be better for both parties.


That comparison is massively flawed! With a dish, I can choose and combine from hundreds if not thousands of ingredients, spices, cooking methods, etc. In this project (and not just this one) the options are much more limited. I have stated the exterior dimensions often enough, and one must work within them, not one centimeter more or different.


No, it was locked for me, small but fine distinction. I had committed the mortal sin here ;) I had posted a, drumroll please… LINK!! :p


Yeah… exactly not… see above. No links, although since I’m going to log off here anyway (maybe, we’ll see), it could almost be irrelevant to me. Around 2018/19 there was a first thread of mine where it was more about the comparison of solid (massive) and prefab house construction then, and even then tsunamis of outrage and reprimands were piling up on me. Why I would find massive construction stupid (I never said that?), and that as a builder I would always have to be on site (which is the reason not to build massive if that's how it goes, etc.). I don’t need to recount the whole thread. You missed nothing, except you enjoy it when everyone (like here) beats on someone (popcorn is already warm...) :(


I ask myself too why there is such hate against me here. Ah, you meant why I’m in such a hurry? For several reasons. 1. The municipality is absolutely incapable and incompetent to properly implement this new construction project. This is not only my opinion but as I have learned is shared by many others who will build there. We’ve known about the new development area since 2018. Then in 2019 the first massive increase in standard land prices came with about a 70% price hike (compared to two years before!). But instead of making an effort? Nothing… well, many municipalities and we all were more or less in shock due to Corona, but why administrative offices and allocation appointments were not pushed forward, no one from the municipality could answer me until today.
Then there was also political bickering with the opposition... change of allocation criteria in the middle of the allocation, etc. A complete chaos. And only now, 4 years later, was it finally “allocated” including massive price increases for EVERYTHING, no more subsidies, no more grants, more than doubled land prices (which forced us to opt for leasehold instead of buying the land) and sharply rising interest rates. Everyone around us advised us not to build now and I agree with them. The timing is more than bad, but we simply have an enormous need for more space, we want another child and rentals in and around Munich are no real alternative. So, now or never! :confused:

Two years ago everything could have been settled by now and then the world and our situation looked much better.


Sorry doesn’t excuse anything there. I’m honestly torn with you - you tear me down endlessly but are one of the few to offer constructive ideas. Professionally definitely very good, personally at least questionable. But some people just shouldn’t have anything to do with each other.


Have I ever claimed I feel professionally superior to the architect or know better than him?? No, I haven’t. I have repeatedly emphasized that I am looking forward to the appointment with the architect since concrete plans emerge from sketches, ideas, and wishes. But of course, I get something put in my mouth :rolleyes:


Yes, the one I posted here plus the other floors. Well... not anymore. Besides, I said they are outdated.


:rolleyes: Seriously? That’s just deliberate “not wanting to read or understand.” So yes… there shall be a door for people to exit from the garage as well. I would like to have direct access from the garage to the house, but then that would require a hallway or you’d end up in the kitchen… let’s see what the architect thinks about that. Regarding the bikes. Again... there is a sidewalk south of the house and via that a small garden gate to the garden. So (normally) no one would come by bike through the garage (unless it is empty at the time), but only through the (micro) garden, which is really tiny.


Yes, it must! So, north on the street. East is the semi-detached neighbor, south the mini-garden and west is the 3x6 m garage and the western neighbor. ... alternatively, you could be lowered onto the balcony from a helicopter :D ;)


Yes.. and the basement is a must for us! (no discussion). We never wanted the balcony (ok.. I would find a small one nice, but not this A380 landing pad they plan :( We could have built without the extension, but we need to maintain "profile matching" with the neighbor who wanted the large version. Ultimately we also want it, simply because you get more space. The huge balcony I can at most clutter with greenhouses and laundry lines (still the most sensible use). Others suggested a whirlpool, but then it would have to be clarified if it can carry about a ton in that spot locally. Otherwise, it will go in the garden, we will see :)


Maybe not for you, but for us it does! Besides... it’s only a sketch, not a real floor plan.


Why should I care if "anyone else ‘understands’ the property??? Nothing could be more irrelevant to me :D Yes


I don’t expect any help at all?!! “You” or others repeatedly asked/demanded “post floor plans.” And just because we now decided on a provider and the next steps are concrete, I thought “it can’t hurt to post the sketches,” well.. I was wrong :( My mood suffers a lot because of it.


Better if you hadn’t. Or are you addicted to putting others down? You are arrogant and insulting! Please don’t address me anymore, or... what do I have the block function for?


What is a kids’ room?? If you mean kids’ rooms (what are those abbreviations always??). Yes, the 8.20 sqm room is needed. Not necessarily in that size, but I want my private leisure/gaming room. My wife should also get her reading corner with a hanging chair. But definitely not in “my” room :cool: I repeat, my racing cockpit about 200x90 cm plus a 42"+ flat TV and accessories will fit in there. A window or French balcony is required for fresh air.


Yes… I never claimed they are unnecessary or that I could do it better! Really... try "reading."


I don’t need a bulky closet in the hallway where all clothes would just be cramped together.


:D Total nonsense, our current kitchen is narrower than the kitchen in the design. And I find our kitchen great now!!


The dining table is also designed for 8 people. Realistically we would be 4 and if guests come, it either has an extension or can be enlarged.


YES, from this moment it is essential. :rolleyes::confused: No, we just don’t want spiral stairs!! A straight staircase would be OK, but then we lose even more floor space.


Alright, a suggestion without mockery.


An example would be useful here, or a link (warning)


?? Where do you see an office?? Downstairs (south) is the dining table, then further north comes the sofa with TV and above a reading corner with hanging chair for my wife. Yes, it gets a bit dark there, but what are cozy lamps for?


Who says they are unnecessary... oh... someone said it, but that doesn’t count :P


No, the couch and above (north) is the hanging chair.


Let’s see what the architect says.


Thanks for that!


As said, landing stairs don’t matter to us, we simply don’t want spiral stairs, but 90° angles or no turns at all.


Haha how funny... not. And no... I do not think I’m the greatest and best. What a waste of time. :(


Well, that’s over now! I considered posting details of it, but certainly not the whole thing. Who knows what kind of people are around here, who might suddenly stand at my door. No wonder we don’t get along if you like the stupid development plan. 1. Why are we forced to build a monopitch roof at that spot, we had no choice (other plots had disadvantages too). I would have preferred a gable roof.
2. The great monopitch roof slopes to the north!!! That is absolutely counterproductive for the efficiency of a photovoltaic system, which is even mandated by the great municipality now. This recessed building including the pointless kink (who sees that? The rabbits in the field??) only causes difficulties. The balcony must be sealed as a flat roof accordingly and is way too large. Apart from laundry lines, dead space.


Come on.. annoy someone else! Another one to block!


Yes, I hope Haas or the architect also has 3D views, preferably dynamic with a light source to recognize shadows.

So... I’m out for good. Spread your hate wherever you want, but not on me! We will build (have built) a nice house anyway, even without you!

So... anyone considering posting their floor plans here, might want to think twice if that’s such a great idea.
 

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