Floor plan design for a 160 sqm single-family house - Your opinions are welcome

  • Erstellt am 2017-12-27 19:09:39

ypg

2017-12-28 20:33:59
  • #1


Privacy versus fresh air opponents: fresh air opponents have won: what is privacy compared to entering the house from the dark garage into the dark utility room, where the dirty laundry fiddles and the devices rumble ;)
It always wins... always this ugly door.
 

pascalf

2017-12-28 21:34:38
  • #2

Fortunately, forums thrive on differing opinions. :)
My take on it:
When I drive into the garage, I spend many minutes before that in the light-flooded car. (I am even lucky to have been able to drive the same roadster for 11 years, so I am even a fanatic about fresh air). When I then drive into the garage and close the door behind me, I am maybe 10 seconds in the dark garage before I go into the utility room (which has a window). There, if I slowly take off my shoes, I stay about 20 seconds. By the way, my current utility room doesn’t smell at all despite having a lot of dirty laundry, completely without controlled residential ventilation.

Our current garage is about 15 m away from the house entrance. This is not just, but especially in winter, really annoying. To get from the car to the house with dry feet is really something great. Privacy on the way into the house with shopping bags is completely irrelevant to me.


We imagined a house where the three of us can live very comfortably and well, but which in 20 years, when we — if everything goes as we now imagine — are two, is not too big. The shape of the plot invites a house that is larger in east-west extension than in north-south orientation. We want an office on the ground floor, a fairly open living-dining area combined with the kitchen, but no completely open concept (hallway, upper floor). Above all, there is a financial concept. The city villa you linked, 11ant, is very nice conceptually. But unfortunately not suitable for our needs: cellar versus no cellar, a hallway that is nicer but again 10 sqm larger than our already large hallway. The upper floor would probably not be the problem, but for the ground floor I really lack the imagination how that could fit our stated needs.
I find the garage constellation interesting.
 

kbt09

2017-12-28 22:39:40
  • #3
Hmm .... the hallway is now a bit wider, a bit more storage space, but the hallway is still 10 m long and boringly straight ;).

In the kitchen, there seems to be a bit more space on the right side above the kitchen window for at least one tall cabinet.

Unfortunately, still no south-facing window in the kitchen area and the slalom path (is that so desirable and important? ;) ) towards the terrace is still there.

Unfortunately, the house does not have the goal "house for old age" because you really can't manage without an upper floor.
 

pascalf

2017-12-28 23:16:23
  • #4


Yep, the hallway is still quite long (but "only" about 9.2 and not 10m ;) ). That is a drawback, I agree.

I would also rather have the window in the kitchen facing south and communicated it as such. My wife and our architect see it differently. :D Maybe that creates a more harmonious appearance from the outside with the window above in the bedroom.
I see little problem with the slalom path towards the terrace. As mentioned, the furniture in the plan has the correct dimensions and the chairs are fully pushed out, which only happens in practice when everyone is actually seated.

In the last weeks and days, we have realized that living on one level requires more than just having a shower in the guest WC. Also, not all eventualities can be planned for. We and many others are planning a house at a relatively young age. I am aware that the following is anything but representative, but: all grandparents in our families are/were still able, at the age of 85+, to use their multi-story houses without major limitations. Besides, every third married couple gets divorced. On the other hand, I could become paraplegic tomorrow or die in a car accident. Or have a stroke and have to sell the house due to unemployment. If you considered everything, you couldn’t build a house. What I want to say is: first, everything turns out differently, second, than you think. Of course, living on one level CAN become important and we at least had it planned rudimentarily at first, but I am not willing to do "gymnastics" to realize a variant that I will use only with a vanishingly small probability.
Through a post here in the forum, we became aware that there is only about 45 cm space between the toilet and the shower wall. Enlarging it was not possible without major changes. Furthermore, by removing the shower, the layout of the office could be significantly improved. That’s why this shower died for us yesterday.
 

11ant

2017-12-29 00:28:49
  • #5
I manage that about ten times a year, even though my garage is three street corners away from my apartment. A door through which I could slip directly from under the duvet behind the steering wheel would be the last thing I would "miss," even in an absolute dream house. You shouldn’t build this design anyway. I just meant: if you look at a trick image (from this and your house) in your mind’s eye, after a while a spark might jump, like a Eureka effect. Some detail where the penny drops. Which one, I couldn’t say myself – only that because of the similarities I would see a high chance that it would.
 

pascalf

2017-12-30 10:23:57
  • #6
We have reconsidered a few things, especially the long hallway, and have come to the following conclusion.
We have also adjusted the garage a bit.

The attached jpg has been photoshopped by us; in particular, area dimensions and wall thicknesses will not be 100% accurate. Also, the changes have not yet been coordinated with the architect.
The utility room may need to be slightly widened (it is currently about 1.9m wide). The chimney may have to be routed outside from the upper floor since there is no upper floor above the utility room.
The upper floor was not touched.

What do you think?
 

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