Floor plan after the first planning meeting, 140m², 1.5 stories

  • Erstellt am 2022-01-06 17:19:33

Richooo

2022-01-06 17:19:33
  • #1
Development plan/restrictions
Size of the plot: 505
Slope: No
Site occupancy index
Floor space index: 0.4
Building window, building line and boundary 3m
Edge development: not planned
Number of parking spaces: 2, only paved
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: half-hipped roof
Style: modern, timeless
Orientation: South-Odt
Maximum heights/limits 4.5m eaves height
Other requirements: Photovoltaics only on one side

Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type
Basement, floors: No, 1.5
Number of people, age: currently 2 (26-27), planned two children
Space requirement on ground floor, upper floor: well, what 140 can provide. Upstairs 2 kids’ rooms, 1 bedroom and optionally a study
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests sleeping per year: few
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: yes

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Hi, looking forward to your feedback. We had the first planning meeting today and now have the first sketch. Most of what we had planned beforehand has been implemented.
What we particularly like:

the open and space-wise well-utilized open living concept downstairs.

we also like the bedroom upstairs. When both children are there eventually, you can convert the niche openly into a study or, if necessary, separate it with a drywall and have an additional complete room.

What is not optimal:
The location of the bathroom downstairs is not perfect, but we could not get it any better without
A) creating an additional hallway
B) taking away space on the south side

The walls there will additionally be made of sand-lime brick to provide somewhat better sound insulation. However, we are generally open people, and visitors who don’t like it simply go upstairs.

So it’s fine as it is.

Also not optimal is the location of the fireplace. It looks out from the clipped gable side of the roof here. But it’s okay. Not a big deal.

Looking forward to your feedback!




 

OWLer

2022-01-06 20:14:12
  • #2


Personally, I find the design very sobering.

1. It is indeed open. Is really no door planned for the entrance area and staircase? Keep in mind that all cooking smells will spread throughout the entire house.
2. I find this dead-end in the bedroom, put there because there was leftover space, really awful. The square meters should be properly planned and not just "sold along" because the downstairs square meters resulted in the upper floor size.
2.5. Hallway space is usually "dead" space but it could definitely be a bit more. Passing traffic will be tight and you have absolutely no natural light in the upper floor hallway.
3. What else should the interior walls be made of if not sand-lime brick? I hope that isn’t sold to you as an extra.
4. It’s okay, no big deal, if you have all the possibilities in the planning phase for an investment volume of at least 350k plus additional costs? Well, it can be done. But having a freestanding chimney right in the middle of the upstairs bedroom is bordering on torture.
5. Having bathroom access directly through the kitchen is at least unusual. I would have understood you as open people differently. As a guest after a chili dinner, I would find it very uncomfortable if I had to ventilate the bathroom for 5 minutes before not directly drawing attention to the odor.
 

Richooo

2022-01-06 21:46:10
  • #3
Dear

Thank you very much for your detailed message and your criticism. I will briefly address the points one by one.

1) Exactly, no door is planned. It wouldn’t fit there. Moreover, I consider the hallway wasted space. It should be enough for a small wardrobe and a bench. The space is sufficient for that. The door itself should be quite bright due to the window and a large glass element next to the door on the ground floor. Upstairs, we are still considering installing a window. But I wouldn’t mind without it either.

2) The space you lovingly called “blind gut” in the bedroom was intended that way by us. We also had a floor plan where this was the study (in another position), but that made all the rooms upstairs look small. This way, there is a wide line of sight, and the room there (8 m2) can later also be separated as a study. For now, it is supposed to serve as a sports corner. A walk-in closet or something similar would of course also be possible.

3) To my knowledge, the interior walls are made of aerated concrete.

4) Not quite, the house costs are 300k plus additional construction costs, but in the end, that doesn’t really matter. It’s a lot of money. I would have no idea where else the chimney should go so that it is in a meaningful place on the ground floor. That’s my problem. The development plan requires that the chimney can only run along the central axes of the roof (something about the maximum height it protrudes).

5) If this situation should occur, I will tell our guest that they can also go poop upstairs. Then they can enjoy their peace and quiet the second time with more intensity.

Overall, you certainly can’t create a floor plan that perfectly combines everything. That’s why I also said “No big deal.” Because compromises will have to be made in any case.
 

ypg

2022-01-06 23:49:15
  • #4
Good smells wouldn’t bother me now, but the [Toi am Herd] is then really too much. We have already discussed the house… if I remember correctly, nothing has been improved?! You give your idea to the draftsman, and he redraws it for you in a customer-friendly way. And now?
 

Richooo

2022-01-06 23:58:07
  • #5


well, yes. Because the width of the corridors towards the stairs etc. has already been adjusted and widened, as well as the living room. But rather details. It was previously 3.70m wide and is now 3.93m, so the frequently requested 4m

but of course. She has naturally oriented herself according to our suggestions and tried to implement them.

So far, of course, a lot has been criticized. But a constructive proposal on how to better implement our wish has not yet come.
 

Richooo

2022-01-07 00:03:30
  • #6
I just wonder if the bathroom really bothers in daily life. If it bothers visitors, they go upstairs. For us, living together, we don’t care at all. And 99% of the day it’s just a wall with a closed door. Of course, ideally I would have swapped the utility room and bathroom. But I believe in everyday life it hardly makes a difference.
 

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