First floor plan single-family house - Your ideas also regarding the property

  • Erstellt am 2019-01-11 21:48:12

haydee

2019-01-13 12:40:09
  • #1
Wood frame can also go on a basement Whether a basement makes sense or not depends on the plot and not on the construction method. The floor slab also costs money. You have to fill in, slope away or otherwise support. Of course we don't have prices like in Ingolstadt, Munich and so on. However, we are miles away from the prices in Mecklenburg. After all, we are not far from high-price areas. Ypg cost breakdown is not so wrong. Maybe you don't need 2,000 euros per sqm but with a lot of own effort, giving up on Hyps, low standards, time and luck you get to 1,600 euros. Then there are additional construction costs, which should not be underestimated, especially the earthworks.
 

face26

2019-01-13 12:42:02
  • #2


This makes any further discussion unnecessary. On the one hand, you say there is still room upwards, on the other hand, you want to build efficiently and claim massive regional is cheaper, but you almost ignore the slope (which affects both efficiency and costs). How is this supposed to work here? You just plan cheerfully, and after two weeks, 25 posts, and 15 pages, you have a draft and then calculate and realize UPS 100k too much. Honestly, I think you are getting lost here. You should set the budget very broadly at the beginning, compare it with your requirements for the room program, take the plot into account (keyword slope), and then roughly estimate if it's feasible.

Just as an example, simply leaving out the basement and having a bit more square meters upstairs might be possible on an optimal plot and save money, but with a slope, the gradient has to be somehow balanced without a basement. 1 m on 10 m of the house already makes a difference. Exactly like your idea of using the excavation for embankment. That might be possible under certain circumstances, but you also have neighbors and plot boundaries. A few meters of natural stone wall to the boundary and the earthworks there - we're talking about significantly five-figure amounts. The general contractor who just casually throws out a floor plan without considering the plot... I don't know if that would be the man I trust.

For me, at the moment, this is like shooting sparrows with cannonballs.
 

11ant

2019-01-13 13:01:13
  • #3
I can’t make any sense of Contribution #1 at all: I don’t see how the aerial photo and the site plan relate to each other. What might "G/E" mean, which is drawn on the roof surfaces of the little house symbols? – What kind of smoker’s balcony is that on the eaves side of the children’s rooms?

The floor plan seems sketched without any sense of dimensions; the beds (?) of the children would need a lot of knee wall there (and so on).

The pipe dream of saving money by single awarding will spectacularly fail; anyone who really wants to save invests in good detailed planning. Honestly, how does a layperson proceed when requesting bids?

Without experience with (and knowledge of) tendering, one will probably copy the building plans and send them to potential bidders. Lacking a structured common denominator, it will hardly be possible to compare the results properly. On the construction site, the seventh one shows up before the third because he happened to have time earlier. Then he drills the Hilti through the wall where the mason could have left a recess. After the third comes the second (who should have come before him) and awkwardly fumbles around the already existing work, causing expensive overtime hours in abundance – not to mention warranty troubles. The roughly misestimated quantities in the offers (for quantities it is still just about possible for a layperson to keep an overview) go unnoticed by the client and later they have to pay handsomely.

Conclusion: the harebrained idea of “single awarding as a layperson” costs a fortune – but every coin has two sides: afterwards, you can switch professionally to construction consulting using the gained experience as “start-up capital.”
 

ypg

2019-01-13 15:49:55
  • #4


Thanks. The numbers are also just confirmed numbers, picked up here from the forum.
We built in 2013 in affordable Lower Saxony for 1,600! The value of personal effort is not even included in that.

Calculate how much personal effort you have to put in to save 400€/sqm.
 

haydee

2019-01-13 16:14:01
  • #5
I started from our house and deducted possible savings, then added own work, a lot depends on Nordlys' attitude and time it could work. Neighbors are roughly within the budget but have a flat plot and insane own work. Every evening with brother-in-law and father-in-law and simply. I don’t like the floorboards, but which laminate do you have that is good and cheap.
 

ypg

2019-01-13 16:35:40
  • #6

differs greatly with


By the way, my calculation is always without floors and painting, because you almost always do those yourself in own effort.
 

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