Financing Single-family house 520TE current market situation / year-end business banks?

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-08 13:50:00

kbt09

2022-12-17 12:41:00
  • #1
So, this is how I see it with the costs:
Loan with savings building society contract

The years 2024 – 2043
Monthly installment interest for loan: 1398.25 ==> Total interest 335,580.00
Monthly installment savings building society contract: 628.00 Together: 2026.25
=628*20*12=150,720 paid in Loan from this should be 326,000 = together 476,720 ==> Costs 6,720.00

The years 2044-2057
Monthly installment building society loan: 2,330.00 ==> Total interest: 45,500.18

Option 1 - Costs: 335,580.00+45,500.18+6,720=387,800
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Loan 420,000 and KFW loan ... slightly modified, you didn’t say how much you want to keep in ETFs to repay the residual debt KfW, so here the total rate at the beginning is as high as in the building society contract variant, so the KfW residual debt is only 18,672
The first 10 years:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50
Monthly installment KfW = 357.00 ==> Together: 2026.50 ==> Residual debt: 18,672.78

Then also modified here and the previous KfW rate taken into account as a partial saving for annual special repayments
Afterwards 2034 - 2048:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50
Monthly portion special repayment = 350.00 (4,200/year) ==> Together: 2019.50

This then leads to the fact that the special payments can be stopped in the last 8 years and one is finished after 33 years, just like with the building society contract
Afterwards 2049 – 2057:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50

Option 2 - Costs: 305,061.00 (loan interest)+11,512.78 (KfW interest) = 316,573.78
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And then there is the option to set the KfW rate high enough so that after 10 years there is no residual debt. That would mean approx. 120 euros more rate in the first 10 years than in the building society contract variant, but no ETF or similar needs to be saved for the residual debt anymore

The first 10 years:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50
Monthly installment KfW = 485.83 ==> Together: 2155.33

Then again with partial annual special repayment
Afterwards 2034 - 2048:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50
Monthly portion special repayment = 350.00 (4,200/year) ==> Together: 2019.50

Afterwards 2049 – 2057:
Monthly installment loan = 1,669.50

Option 3 - Costs: 305,061.00+8,724.00 = 313,785.00

CONCLUSION
All 3 options are completed after 33 years, option 3 saves around 76,000 euros compared to option 1.
If in options 2 and 3 the special repayment is maintained in the last phase, one is even finished earlier and has paid even less interest.
 

Alibert87

2022-12-18 10:46:45
  • #2

Great praise!
Heartfelt thanks
 

kbt09

2022-12-18 10:48:17
  • #3
... what calculations did you do to come to the statement "costs almost identical"?
 

Alibert87

2022-12-18 11:41:59
  • #4
I only looked at the costs of the building savings contract on the screen with the bank advisor. The exact costs (effective interest rate) are/were not provided for the building savings contract. Therefore, he roughly calculated it for me ... I also received an offer from the bank. That should be the "cheapest" option. Would you take the risk of a 16-year fixed interest period? It would look like this: Annuity loan EUR 470,000 with a term of 40 years, fixed interest period 16 years, nominal interest rate 3.40%, installment EUR 1,780, special repayment option 5% per year
 

kbt09

2022-12-18 12:17:39
  • #5
Are you calculating the costs? Why now such an offer with the lower monthly rate? At the beginning, you only have 1.14% repayment. There are financing calculators on Baufi24 where you can simply enter the values.

Last offer from you:
Annuity loan EUR 470,000 with a term of 40 years, fixed interest period 16 years, nominal interest rate 3.40%, rate EUR 1,780,--, special repayment option 5% per year
==> EUR 397,456.00 interest payments, if the interest remains the same after 16 years, interest rate risk after 16 years


If you at least design the conditions so that you pay the previously planned rate of EUR 2,019.00 per month, it changes as follows:
==> EUR 298,923.00 interest payments, if the interest remains the same after 16 years, still interest rate risk after 16 years (the calculator only allows 15)


If you take from your previous offers the annuity loan of EUR 470,000 with a 30-year fixed interest period and payment of EUR 2,019 / month
==> EUR 337,825.00 interest payments, interest rate risk only after 30 years


So why this lower rate now?
 

Alibert87

2022-12-20 09:57:28
  • #6


Sorry that I am only getting back now!
I have taken a look at the total costs of the two "favorites," i.e. annuity loan vs. building saver.
For that, I created the following calculation, is the perspective on total costs comparable like this?

Annuity model Bank 1:
TEU 420: 470 months x 1,629.96 = 787,955.00
TEU 50: 12 months x 135.83 = 1,629.96
288 months x 250.52 = 72,149.76
Total 861,734.72

Building savings contract model building savings bank and Bank 2:
Accumulation phase
TEU 470: 240 months x 2,018.42 = 484,420.80
./. 1 monthly saving rate building savings contract 628,-- = ./. 628.00

Building savings loan phase
161 months x 2,328.74 = 374,872.40
Total 858,665.20 (plus building savings contract closing fee)
 

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