Financing problems

  • Erstellt am 2019-06-20 09:04:25

Egberto

2019-06-20 14:08:23
  • #1
What do you want: You are asking for specific advice and are not disclosing the numbers concretely. That is perfectly fine, I would not want to disclose my finances either, but then please do not waste your and our time here, instead clarify this anonymously with your bank advisor or [Vermittler].
 

Tassimat

2019-06-20 14:08:34
  • #2


Aha, now we are getting closer to the matter. Where did you know that from, boxandroof?
 

Mottenhausen

2019-06-20 14:13:39
  • #3
interesting topic

I see several problem areas:



So €30,000 saved together last year and your boyfriend about €12,500 per year before that, over 4 years = €50,000, total equity for both of you = €80,000. Do you have this money, yes or no? If no: first problem: you are lying to yourselves about the savings rate. Down payments for the cars, etc... you know how it is. The problem is, the bank also calculates such things afterwards.



Very important: separate construction buffer and private buffer. How high are the buffers? The bank might want to see if you are realistic!



Problem no. 2:

What does the construction service description say? The missing painting work may still include fine interior plaster, filling work, connection joints, fabric transitions, etc., and not just the paint coat, unfortunately many confuse this. Especially with raw ceilings, it gets really nasty and is hardly manageable with self-labor. Check the construction service description for what it says about painting work, especially ceilings.

Flooring is also no fun. Having living room tiles laid with comparatively normal 120x25 tiles in wood look cost us about €5,000 in the budget. Just as an example.



Problem no. 3: you wrote above: “longer commute” and in a few years you will be without cars. And then? Buy with a final installment? Money planned? Or down payment for new cars planned? Then the installments still continue anyway and you basically keep paying off. That means the idea mentioned earlier to list the cars as debts was correct. The fact is, you are currently and also in the future burning a lot of money on your mobility.

4th problem: again about the equity, sorry! Besides the buffers and the completion self-labor, for which you basically have no time and hardly any money (relatives also need to buy materials)

you want to pay everything else from this:



You also mentioned a surveyor somewhere... and not to forget:



The kitchen too? WTF? In my opinion, this doesn't add up at all. As others have already said: you are not giving us all the numbers, so it is a guessing game. But assuming you have a total of €45,000 for everything mentioned above (I can literally feel the number) including construction buffer and private buffer (the washing machine... you know), that somehow does not fit.

PS, if the credit decision in your case (for whatever reason) was made as emotionally as my analysis and less based on cold facts, I am unfortunately not surprised by the rejection.
 

Niloa

2019-06-20 14:18:13
  • #4
You write that you have a notary appointment. For the land purchase? Can't you just finance the land first? Then save for another year and build the house afterwards. That way you have more equity and more time to plan a cheaper house.
 

HilfeHilfe

2019-06-20 14:24:43
  • #5
Not every bank likes those earning abroad
 

danixf

2019-06-20 15:07:05
  • #6
A guaranteed right of return does not interest the bank. At least not if you talk to XY about it. That is a contract between you and the car dealership. For you, only the loan is on the record. And that means that for two cars you have a loan of 50-60K EUR. Of which certainly about 40K EUR are still outstanding. Accordingly, you would have about MINUS 15K EUR on the bank's sheet. That's on the topic of no "debt". We had that problem at the beginning too.

By the way, we also had our notary appointment and one bank declined. We then postponed the appointment. You should do that too.

Now probably the value of the house also plays a role. I no longer have the exact formulas in mind, but an acquaintance once explained it to me. Basically, the bank inputs that into their calculator and out comes an absolutely illogical value. For example, 200K EUR. That is the value for the bank. Depending on the bank, there is now an amount they add as a risk margin. For us, for example, that was 140K EUR. So we could have received a maximum of 340K EUR from the bank. We therefore had to look for a bank that stands behind the main bank in the contract. That one took over the difference for us, but you pay higher interest for that.

Basically, you should inquire how much they will finance for you at most and then ask other banks about the difference. You don’t pay the usual market rates of 1.5%-2% there, but rather 2.2% or more. Whether you do that is your decision. We only did it because we can repay that in one lump sum in 5 years.

Regarding your working hours and the fact that you don’t have much time. Then have fun with botched work and complaining later. I have planned 33 vacation days and 400 overtime hours over the course of the year + weekends. Even if you run everything through one company, you have to be careful. A wall gets set wrong so quickly, a window positioned incorrectly, shutters forgotten, the roof incorrectly battened, and so on and so forth. There are simply too many people involved who currently have too much to do.
 

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