Extend/connect outdoor power line

  • Erstellt am 2024-02-26 09:35:44

houser

2024-02-26 13:45:06
  • #1
Then clarify this with a qualified electrician. I am an IT specialist (software and projects), but I had an electrician as a father. Therefore, I have acquired some knowledge, even if officially many things are not allowed. What I do know is: If you put an RCD outside behind the one already present in the house, it is not necessarily guaranteed that it will trip first in case of a fault. That then depends on the response behavior of the two RCDs, which becomes more complicated than inexperienced laypeople can understand. PS: At the point where the gardener extended the line, the electrician might also be able to rewire the 5 conductors differently so that the switch inside could be used. Provided, of course, that access to this junction/extension is possible.
 

Prager91

2024-02-27 13:21:08
  • #2

Inside I have a normal switch that is connected via 5 conductors for constant power. This continued outside via an underground cable and was then extended and routed under the terrace with 3 conductors. Therefore, a change to 5 conductors outside is no longer possible because the cable lies under the terrace.
However, my idea would be – it should be feasible:
Remove the toggle switch inside and connect a smart home or timer control.
Outside, simply extend the 3-conductor cable via a waterproof distribution box or junction box and connect to the lamps respectively. That way I could control the lamps from inside via timer or smart home – all together, of course. That should work, right, or am I having a flawed thought?
 

Oberhäslich

2024-02-27 13:52:06
  • #3
Inside at the switch install a Shelly with WiFi/Bluetooth. You can then control it smartly via times or weather or also via a button. But then everything turns on/off. Only the cable needs to be extended. You can't run 5 cables outside if you still have garage/bungalow/carport/gate/garden/pool etc. I will also lay only 2 cables outside, one for the outdoor light/driveway and one to the carport with 10mm² where a sub-distribution will be made for the bungalow/garage/cistern and from the garage another sub-distribution for the rear garden/outdoor sockets. That is not possible otherwise with 50m cable length from the house. In the sub-distribution then a FI/LS.
 

Prager91

2024-02-27 14:20:53
  • #4


Then I thought correctly – all right – thanks for the info.

Only the problem with the RCD... It is switched WITH the living room at our place. If the line is in water, unfortunately it doesn't help if the switch is off – the RCD still trips. I am a bit concerned that this could happen at some point over time. If then everything outside is nicely connected and wired – that would also be a search...

Would it be possible for the electrician to take this line from the RCD at the switch box and connect it separately with its own RCD?
 

Oberhäslich

2024-02-27 15:35:17
  • #5
You said your outdoor light/socket runs through the living room. Then I think that’s not possible because then it was simply branched off from a socket somewhere in the living room. Are you sure? You should research again whether it really wasn't secured separately...

Otherwise, there is still the possibility that an electrician drills a hole through the base slab and lays an extra secured 5x2.5mm² or preferably 6mm² cable outside; maybe you will need a wallbox in a few years...

Or you install a small distribution box at the end of the line with an RCD and go from there into the garden/spots. Nothing should happen between the switch inside and the distribution box.
 

xMisterDx

2024-02-28 21:07:44
  • #6


Then please stop that and get someone who can and is allowed to do it.
 

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